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GOD didn't force Lucifer to hate HIM. Lucifer made a decision.
They won't experiment. "Christ, please, if You exist, show me. I want to know with all my heart. I will do anything, anything You ask of me. I am sincere LORD. I have to know if You are real! Please show me."These scientists are incapable of praying that prayer, sincerely.
Quote from: duffyd on 17/04/2020 14:13:16GOD didn't force Lucifer to hate HIM. Lucifer made a decision.God made Lucifer, knowing what would happen.This is a bit like the "I didn't kill him; the bullet did" argument.You are responsible for your indirect actions as well as your direct ones.
It's the "interpretation" bit that invokes contempt. A famous objection to university courses in English literature was "so much bad English has been written about good English". Much the same with Christianity. How much would you pay for a bowdlerised sketch of a third-hand copy of a painting by an unknown artist of an event that he did not witness? Not a lot, I suspect. So why write pages of nonsense about a wholly unjustified interpretation of an edited collection of quasi-historical and bizarrely mystical texts? At face value the bible contains some interesting snippets of the history and poetry of the Jews up to about 2000 years ago, with possibly too much emphasis (much of it tediously repeated and over-embellished) about Rabbi Jesus of Nazareth. There's plenty more, some in the Dead Sea Scrolls and more recently in the Encyclopaedia Judaica. Little point in anyone else reading it as we don't accept converts easily, nor do we require a detailed knowledge of it - just a broad understanding of the underlying philosophy and acceptance of the rules of behavior. And don't kneel.
I answered this thread honestly, I think you should honestly edit the title to some thing like, "why does duffy antagonise for god"
Kerosene, I never meant to force you to cling to every word I write. I realize you and others can't help themselves but I really don't try to be so irresistible. Maybe you should seek professional help.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 17/04/2020 15:21:01Quote from: duffyd on 17/04/2020 14:13:16GOD didn't force Lucifer to hate HIM. Lucifer made a decision.God made Lucifer, knowing what would happen.This is a bit like the "I didn't kill him; the bullet did" argument.You are responsible for your indirect actions as well as your direct ones.God is possibly in the wrong with some of our sensitivities for wanting free willing servants of great power. But I am sure He looked into the future possibilities and picked a fall, with the least damage done to God and the faithful. And the minimum loss of any free willing creatures. IMHO.
Scientists, like the one who headed our government's research into deciphering the human genome tells you exactly why he believes the bible in his book you haven't read. Why? Go to your library. It's free.
A Boy Named Sue. I have no bias.
Dr. Robert BlairWe learn about Jesus primarily from the New Testament. But we learn about Jesus also from other early sources. One such source of information and confirmation is the collection of non-Christian material about Jesus, both Roman and Jewish. For example, Princeton biblical scholar Bruce Metzger says that even without the New Testament records, “early non-Christian testimonies concerning Jesus, though scanty, are sufficient to prove … that he was a historical figure who lived in Palestine in the early years of the first century, that he gathered a group of followers about himself, and that he was condemned to death under Pontius Pilate. Today, no competent scholar denies the historicity of Jesus.”One of Jesus's clearest self-identifying statements came in response to the Jewish leaders' direct question: "How long will you keep us in suspense? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly" (John 10:24). “I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father’s name, these testify of Me. But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one." (John 10:25-30)
His biographies did not make, and did not try to make, a single dime from their work.