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Quote from: jeffreyH on 15/04/2020 11:09:48Quote from: duffyd on 15/04/2020 08:51:45You don't know what he preached. How can you call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can you put any label on Him? You know practically nothing about the guy. Wow a classic case of projection. Just couldn't let this one pass. Or do you have a time machine?Let me rephrase that for you so you sound rational. "I don't know what he preached. How can I call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can I put any label on Him? I know practically nothing about the guy."If I got something wrong, by all means, prove it. You can't and won't, so your response is sort of silly.
Quote from: duffyd on 15/04/2020 08:51:45You don't know what he preached. How can you call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can you put any label on Him? You know practically nothing about the guy. Wow a classic case of projection. Just couldn't let this one pass. Or do you have a time machine?Let me rephrase that for you so you sound rational. "I don't know what he preached. How can I call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can I put any label on Him? I know practically nothing about the guy."
You don't know what he preached. How can you call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can you put any label on Him? You know practically nothing about the guy.
Scientifically, that is evidence that HE is real.
HE proved beyond a shadow of turning that even death couldn't defeat Him. His disciples saw Him, spoke to Him, touched Him, even ate food with Him after He was murdered and buried.
Quote from: duffyd on 15/04/2020 12:22:07Quote from: jeffreyH on 15/04/2020 11:09:48Quote from: duffyd on 15/04/2020 08:51:45You don't know what he preached. How can you call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can you put any label on Him? You know practically nothing about the guy. Wow a classic case of projection. Just couldn't let this one pass. Or do you have a time machine?Let me rephrase that for you so you sound rational. "I don't know what he preached. How can I call Him a fundamentalist rabbi? How can I put any label on Him? I know practically nothing about the guy."If I got something wrong, by all means, prove it. You can't and won't, so your response is sort of silly.He couldn't and he didn't.
Maybe we disappear Poof! because we have productive work to do and not enough time to devote to discussing fairytales.
It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor…" "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades, inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage...… or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.
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A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).
Quote from: duffyd on 15/04/2020 08:24:46It's a ramshackle collection of historical fact swimming in myth and magic, with a few good ideas for survival in a desert (Leviticus) and an urban society (Mark). A sound basis for workers' rights ("six days shalt thou labor…" "the laborer is worthy of his hire....") and some general commandments that underpin most criminal and civil law. But it doesn't provide any excuse for tithes, pogroms, crusades, inquisitions, self-flagellation, paedophilia, shunning, pilgrimage...… or any evidence for the supernatural or an afterlife, and the reification of the adjectives "good" and "evil" is an insult to the human intellect.Wrong again in almost every respect
You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi.
I am batting a 1,000 percent.
Truth is tough to defeat.
I have no monopoly.
. It is there for the examination.
Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 21:47:43A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi.
Quote from: duffyd on 15/04/2020 15:44:14Quote from: duffyd on 06/04/2020 21:47:43A fundamentalist rabbi crucified for annoying the Romans and the established clergy? Quite likely (we are an argumentative tribe).You cannot, have not and will never prove that He was a fundamentalist Rabbi. Not my job. Why don't you read the bible instead of spouting drivel? John 1:38 And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi (which translated means Teacher), where are You staying?”John 4:31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”John 6:25 When they found Him on the other side of the sea, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You get here?”John 9:2 And His disciples asked Him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?”John 11:8 The disciples *said to Him, “Rabbi, the Jews were just now seeking to stone You, and are You going there again?”Mark 9:5 Peter *said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here; let us make three tabernacles, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”Mark 11:21 Being reminded, Peter *said to Him, “Rabbi, look, the fig tree which You cursed has withered.”John 1:49 Nathanael answered Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel.”John 3:2 this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”Matthew 26:25 And Judas, who was betraying Him, said, “Surely it is not I, Rabbi?” Jesus *said to him, “You have said it yourself.”Matthew 26:49 Immediately Judas went to Jesus and said, “Hail, Rabbi!” and kissed Him.Mark 14:45 After coming, Judas immediately went to Him, saying, “Rabbi!” and kissed Him.Mark 10:51 And answering him, Jesus said, “What do you want Me to do for you?” And the blind man said to Him, “Rabboni, I want to regain my sight!”John 20:16 Jesus *said to her, “Mary!” She turned and *said to Him in Hebrew, “Rabboni!” (which means, Teacher).Matthew 23:7-8 respectful greetings in the market places, and being called Rabbi by men. But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.RTFM, then repent lest the Lord strike you down for bearing false witness against His Son.
Nobody worships rabbis. We aren't that stupid.
HE was radical, a revolutionary, HE rammed the O.T. down their throats.
Quote from: alancalverd on 15/04/2020 17:51:18Nobody worships rabbis. We aren't that stupid.