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Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 29/04/2021 05:08:50Nevertheless, their feelings can be real and sincere, As were those of the Nazis, Stalinists, Thatcherites, supporters of Idi Amin.... Sincerity does not confer moral authority.
Nevertheless, their feelings can be real and sincere,
Quote from: alancalverd on 29/04/2021 12:55:14Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 29/04/2021 05:08:50Nevertheless, their feelings can be real and sincere, As were those of the Nazis, Stalinists, Thatcherites, supporters of Idi Amin.... Sincerity does not confer moral authority."Always wIth the best of intentions is the worst work is done" Oscar Wilde.
What do you think can turn best intentions into the worst work? Surely not all efforts with best intentions end up as worst work.
I made the point some pages ago that morality does not define good and bad!
Actually I didn't define morality, just proposed tests of whether an action could be regarded as moral or not.
Mark Zuckerberg & Yuval Noah Harari in a Conversation//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boj9eD0Wug8
In 1:06:30, Harari gave his thought on free will.QuoteThe people that are easiest to manipulate are the people who believe in free will, and will simply identify with whatever thought or desire pops up in their mind because they cannot even imagine that this desire is not a result of my free will, it is the result of some external manipulation.
The people that are easiest to manipulate are the people who believe in free will, and will simply identify with whatever thought or desire pops up in their mind because they cannot even imagine that this desire is not a result of my free will, it is the result of some external manipulation.
The tools to do [mind manipulation] on a massive scale has been developed over the last few decades. And they may have been developed with the best intentions of just selling stuff to people. But now the same tools that can be used to sell me something I don't really need, can now be used to sell me a politician I really don't need. Or an ideology that I really don't need. It's the same tool, the same hacking the human animal, and manipulating what's happening inside.
we need moral rules to guide/direct/control our free will, which require the existence of free will in the first place.
Who we? I invent and promulgate moral rules to persuade you to act in ways that I find acceptable. You don't need my rules, or any others: you could perfectly well survive by breaking every moral rule imaginable (think professional criminal, despot, pedophile priest....)
Free will or not, I can use various forms of force, moral, physical, or the threat of harm, to constrain your behavior. Free will is irrelevant.
The rise of autonomous vehicles reminds us on the need to develop appropriate moral rules
you can't survive by breaking every moral rule imaginable, especially the "you should not commit suicide" one
The rise of autonomous vehicles reminds us on the need to develop appropriate moral rules applicable for non-human conscious agents.
You can't survive long after being caught stealing or killing someone.