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What white lie?
Quote from: duffyd on 01/05/2020 21:27:58What white lie? You choose. All I require is that it is harmless and that you know it is untrue. Would $15M be acceptable?
Though I have no respect for the analytical intellect of Christians, they do seem to be a pretty canny bunch when it comes to money. Now I can't imagine Constantine, King James or the National Council of Churches paying their editors for simply saying they wrote something. Surely they had to actually deliver a product? And given the differences between, say, the KJV, RSV and NEB, it's pretty obvious that the dates bear some resemblance to the truth.
Quote from: alancalverd on 01/05/2020 21:34:18Though I have no respect for the analytical intellect of Christians, they do seem to be a pretty canny bunch when it comes to money. Now I can't imagine Constantine, King James or the National Council of Churches paying their editors for simply saying they wrote something. Surely they had to actually deliver a product? And given the differences between, say, the KJV, RSV and NEB, it's pretty obvious that the dates bear some resemblance to the truth.Much better. I see where you quoted them asserting it was in fact they who wrote the N. T. My batting average just soared to a 1,000 percent, again, for the new season. Send in a reliever. Even I hate to be this good. I was hoping you'd agree to debate publicly several Christians whose intellect you find weak. Let's start with Fran Collins. I'll set it up for a podcast with THS. Sawright? Sawright.
If he was god incarnate why were so many of the so called miracles he performed the petty party tricks that lay preachers perform al the time .When a real miracle was required freeing him from his captors and preventing his execution he was found lacking.
Please answer the question: how much would you charge to utter a white lie?
Observe the hatred that pours out of people for HIM.
. Indeed if you include Buddhism, any deities at all.
Ok? Take your pick. Are you willing to debate any of them?
Buddha was God?
He's probably going to ignore this and say something rude.
The Council had nothing to do with the writing of the New Testament, as you finally acknowledge. 1,000 percent.
A group of high-powered MIT and Harvard professors were featured recently at a forum to debunk the notion that there is a conflict between science and faith.
Quote from: duffyd on 02/05/2020 10:53:26The Council had nothing to do with the writing of the New Testament, as you finally acknowledge. 1,000 percent. Simply ignoring what I wrote, and most people agree to be true, is not proof that you are right.I think it kindest to assume that you are just dim, not evil. So here it is in very simple words.Thousands of scientific papers and textbooks are published every year. I have a copy of a fairly popular book titled "Modern Scientific Writing." It consists of extracts from about 100 papers and textbooks written in the previous 100 years by various authors, covering the spectrum from quantum physics to astrobiology, and from tediously precise experiments to moderately informed speculation. The selection and editing were done by Richard Dawkins, who is therefore credited as the author of MSW, and his preface gives the date he finished the job. Same applies to the bible. Of all the possible ancient texts by authors known and unknown and copied more or less accurately by unnamed scribes, the Council of Nicea selected and edited what has pretty much become the modern Christian bible after a few more translations and revisions. Why doubt it?
Quote from: duffyd on 02/05/2020 11:14:52A group of high-powered MIT and Harvard professors were featured recently at a forum to debunk the notion that there is a conflict between science and faith.No conflict. Just two different products, one of which actually works. But it's often easier to sell the one that doesn't., because it makes a virtue out of naïve ignorance and depends on its users not understanding it.