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My Psychiatrist will not deviate away from a psychosomatic diagnosis, although he acknowledges the symptom, he doesn't believe in POIS, subsequently he will only treat me with CBT, which I've had in the past with very little results /bah.
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Quote from: Green on 30/04/2012 18:18:22My Psychiatrist will not deviate away from a psychosomatic diagnosis, although he acknowledges the symptom, he doesn't believe in POIS, subsequently he will only treat me with CBT, which I've had in the past with very little results /bah. If you don't believe this yourself - please get rid of him!Quote from: demografx on 29/04/2012 21:33:00Top 10 Reasons to Fire Your Doctor http://arthritis.about.com/od/buildyourhealthcareteam/tp/fireyourdoctor.htm
Thanks for the advice concerning my doctor. I agree that it was wrong of him to refuse me a testosterone test. I'll begin looking for another doctor, however I won't risk losing my current doctor completely as I currently need him for a medication that is somewhat difficult to get a script for.
"To a man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."WHAT A GREAT QUOTE, KURTOSIS!!!!!! Thank you!
Has anybody been cured by treatment that assumes it's a psychological illness? Not me anyway.
Quote from: demografx on 26/04/2012 01:52:29I don't. This is an interesting point you raise, leo17.POIS symptoms - for me - are extremely "unusual". Even the fatigue doesn't feel like normal fatigue, from say, exercise.Ya It's like a mental fatigue, like a brain function just shuts off or is on standby until its gone.Quote from: lauracostis on 26/04/2012 05:36:09Anything that give me a massive jolt of adrenaline with probably give me at least some minor pois symptomsTrue, when I play online competitively and do really well I go nuts with excitement like the giants won the superbowl or something. Now I feel like crap, but even in my hardest workouts when I feel like dropping I never get this feeling. Quote from: B_Daniel on 26/04/2012 08:54:16Leo17- it sounds like youve developed Constant Pois. I've had it now for about 6 months. Yes, it sucks. I would estimate about 5-10% of our members now fall into this category. For me, it didnt happen overnight, but rather over a 3-6 week period my regular pois deteriorated into it. Im not sure what caused it, but one hypothesis of mine is that it corresponds with a slightly decreased libido. Im interested to hear if thats the case for u as well. My recommendation is that u jot down all the details u can remember from that day and the couple days before it. It might be a good list to look back upon one day. Hopefully though, you snap back out of it soon. Please keep us posted of any progress. I'm not sure if a blood test can confirm libido levels but my recent blood test came up good, everything was fine. I've been dealing with this since I was 14-15 and I didn't realize the problem until I did snap out of it and went back into it again at 18. I didn't know what was wrong with me and then I started looking for answers and POIS is the closest thing I found related to them. It's weird, the 2 things I pretty much mostly ever did (excessive gaming, masturbating) are the triggers that set these symptoms off.Now I feel better than I did yesterday, but my thoughts still feel clouded and distant. Also when I"m laying down, or sitting down for about 20-30 minutes or more and I stand up, I get extremely lightheaded, dizzy and even my vision gets blurry for a few seconds. This only happens when I'm in POIS mode, has anyone else went through this?
I don't. This is an interesting point you raise, leo17.POIS symptoms - for me - are extremely "unusual". Even the fatigue doesn't feel like normal fatigue, from say, exercise.
Anything that give me a massive jolt of adrenaline with probably give me at least some minor pois symptoms
Leo17- it sounds like youve developed Constant Pois. I've had it now for about 6 months. Yes, it sucks. I would estimate about 5-10% of our members now fall into this category. For me, it didnt happen overnight, but rather over a 3-6 week period my regular pois deteriorated into it. Im not sure what caused it, but one hypothesis of mine is that it corresponds with a slightly decreased libido. Im interested to hear if thats the case for u as well. My recommendation is that u jot down all the details u can remember from that day and the couple days before it. It might be a good list to look back upon one day. Hopefully though, you snap back out of it soon. Please keep us posted of any progress.
Does anyone with POIS regularly drink alcohol? I don't like drinking at all, it stimulates POIS type symptoms.
Quote from: Green on 01/05/2012 16:14:01Does anyone with POIS regularly drink alcohol? I don't like drinking at all, it stimulates POIS type symptoms.Me neither. It leads to serious brain fog
Quote from: GoingCrazy on 28/04/2012 08:08:53Quote from: demografx on 26/04/2012 21:23:12Quote from: fidalgo on 26/04/2012 14:31:16I´m trying this and it's not working for me. Really, I´m feeling even worse. This is a perfect example of the harm we can do by irresponsibly recommending a "cure" to anyone.I did not recommend a "cure" to anyone. Just stated what has been really helping me. I guess I could agree with you if I had said to him "try this it is the cure" but I didn't say that. I'm sorry if people misunderstood me. Maybe I shouldn't even be defending myself as you're right, that could be the consequence of somebody recommending a cure.Anyway Fidalgo and everybody else, I've sinced stopped the Sea Salt and vitamin C since I ran out of vitamin C. I am now taking nothing and surprisingly I am having very good sleep. I am so exhausted right now and am sleeping very well. So far I haven't had any orgasms but I will update in the future of the affects. I actually feel better now than I was taking any vitamin C, claritin, or sea salt. Sleep is like heaven to me, I haven't slept this well in quite a while. Perhaps (in my previous posts), when my headache "left", POIS "left", but I will know soon.I am not sure if it was the C and sea salt that has done this to me. I am leaning toward the prolonged use of high doses of vitamin C that is making me currently immune to POIS, the sea salt and C I am not so sure about but it still was part of the equation and could have possibly played a role. I will update in the future.Anyways about the 2 weeks rule, yes I did wait 2 weeks, and even more than that, I've waited 2 months after taking high doses of vitamin C, and another 2 weeks while on the sea salt & C, I was just feeling so good that I had to say something. I will update on my future O's I've been doing the Vit-C and sea salt routine for a bit over a week now and I think its helping me. Its certainly not a 'omg this is fantastic' outcome, but i've felt a bit better than normal. I should point out I started taking P-5-P two weeks prior, which is helping with my sleep/dreams as well.Both the sea salt + high dose vit-c could easily play a part in any improvement, but it may not be the same for everyone as a number of us could have other concomitant health issues....for instance parasites or mineral deficiences which the salt will help with. I actually took high dose (30-40gm) Vit-C injections years ago as part of the treatment to recover from CFS. In later years I have also taken the Myers cocktail when really run down (high dose Vit-C, Vit-Bs, Ca, Mg, Zn) and felt wonderful on them, very diminished pois symptoms. The catch with continuing to take these injections....I had to go to a special clinic an hours drive away, expensive ($150/wk), and there is no residual benefit...within 3-4 days of stopping you feel the same as you did before taking them.I didn't think GC was irresponsible at all. These substances are hardly risky, and for those of us who have had pois for years, feeling temporarily worse for trying a new 'prospective' treatment is better than not trying anything beyond abstinence. I think its wonderful whenever I read of someone getting an improvment when trying something new (that I've never tried), as it gives me hope, even if its short lived. People here know the posters here are not medical professionals (and even then with my experience of medicos over the years they are not experts when it comes to something that is not in their textbooks). Its up to the individuals to read up on any substance or discuss it with their doctor or continue ignore it and wait till there is an official treatment protocol.
Quote from: demografx on 26/04/2012 21:23:12Quote from: fidalgo on 26/04/2012 14:31:16I´m trying this and it's not working for me. Really, I´m feeling even worse. This is a perfect example of the harm we can do by irresponsibly recommending a "cure" to anyone.I did not recommend a "cure" to anyone. Just stated what has been really helping me. I guess I could agree with you if I had said to him "try this it is the cure" but I didn't say that. I'm sorry if people misunderstood me. Maybe I shouldn't even be defending myself as you're right, that could be the consequence of somebody recommending a cure.Anyway Fidalgo and everybody else, I've sinced stopped the Sea Salt and vitamin C since I ran out of vitamin C. I am now taking nothing and surprisingly I am having very good sleep. I am so exhausted right now and am sleeping very well. So far I haven't had any orgasms but I will update in the future of the affects. I actually feel better now than I was taking any vitamin C, claritin, or sea salt. Sleep is like heaven to me, I haven't slept this well in quite a while. Perhaps (in my previous posts), when my headache "left", POIS "left", but I will know soon.I am not sure if it was the C and sea salt that has done this to me. I am leaning toward the prolonged use of high doses of vitamin C that is making me currently immune to POIS, the sea salt and C I am not so sure about but it still was part of the equation and could have possibly played a role. I will update in the future.Anyways about the 2 weeks rule, yes I did wait 2 weeks, and even more than that, I've waited 2 months after taking high doses of vitamin C, and another 2 weeks while on the sea salt & C, I was just feeling so good that I had to say something. I will update on my future O's
Quote from: fidalgo on 26/04/2012 14:31:16I´m trying this and it's not working for me. Really, I´m feeling even worse. This is a perfect example of the harm we can do by irresponsibly recommending a "cure" to anyone.
I´m trying this and it's not working for me. Really, I´m feeling even worse.
That is how I felt once I first started taking vitamin C 1500 mg every day. It wasn't the "cure" in the moment, but I believe it led me to something. I'm still not taking any supplements and sleeping very well. I just "O'd" about 15 minutes ago. Currently I have no POIS symptoms, just calm, I will update as time goes on. I still have not had any POIS after that "headache" went away. Maybe it's the continued use of vitamin C, and than adding in the sea salt. I gave, what did I say, about 2 1/2 months just vitamin C and than for about 2 weeks adding in the sea salt. Claritin may or may not have played a role in it. I took claritin for about 2 months when I started the vitamin C. Part of why I am feeling really good is that I am also sleeping really well. I also forgot to state that my acne did clear up when I was taking the sea salt and C... I have very mild acne, but noticed an improvement.UPDATE: It's been a couple of hours since I've "O'd" 3 times and still no POIS, just calm and normal. I, myself, actually believe I no longer have this... 100% honesty. Normally, I would be in full blown POIS at most 30 minutes after "O". It's just a miracle to me. Believe me or not, this is how I feel. I will make another update tomorrow about how i am feeling.