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How do I perceive god? As a pointless philosophical problem invented by someone else for his own amusement, or as an arbitrary invention invoked to justify egregious deeds.
Ancient Greek has four distinct words for love: agápe, éros, philía, and storgē. However, as with other languages, it has been historically difficult to separate the meanings of these words when used outside of their respective contexts. Nonetheless, the senses in which these words were generally used are as follows: Agápe (ἀγάπη agápē[1]) means "love: esp. charity; the love of God for man and of man for God."[2] Agape is used in ancient texts to denote feelings for one's children and the feelings for a spouse, and it was also used to refer to a love feast.[3] Agape is used by Christians to express the unconditional love of God for his children.[4] This type of love was further explained by Thomas Aquinas as "to will the good of another."[5] Éros (ἔρως érōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion."[6] The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love." Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." In the Symposium, the most famous ancient work on the subject, Plato has Socrates argue that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth, the ideal "Form" of youthful beauty that leads us humans to feel erotic desire – thus suggesting that even that sensually based love aspires to the non-corporeal, spiritual plane of existence; that is, finding its truth, just like finding any truth, leads to transcendence.[7] Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth through the means of eros. Philia (φιλία philía) means "affectionate regard, friendship," usually "between equals."[8] It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle.[9] In his best-known work on ethics, Nicomachean Ethics, philia is expressed variously as loyalty to friends (specifically, "brotherly love"), family, and community, and requires virtue, equality, and familiarity. Furthermore, in the same text philos denotes a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers. Storge (στοργή storgē) means "love, affection" and "especially of parents and children"[10] It's the common or natural empathy, like that felt by parents for offspring.[11] Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant. This is also used when referencing the love for ones country or a favorite sports team.
Interestingly I'll probably annoy you more and get biblical. So God from the Bible is existence. "He exists" and always did hence at the end of the infinite chain- there has to be an orginal source, that was not created.As Jews Pray everyday 'God is one', unity, also love, as love and one are the same thing in Hebrew, ofcourse that's what love means in Hebrew, to love is to be one, you'll need to forget the selfish "love" the west thinks about or the loves of the greeks which had four different types of love yet none of them really relate to the concrete unity of the Hebrew, expressed through realtionship- As Jesus expressed John 17.21 "I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one--as you are in me, Father, and I am in you." Quote Ancient Greek has four distinct words for love: agápe, éros, philía, and storgē. However, as with other languages, it has been historically difficult to separate the meanings of these words when used outside of their respective contexts. Nonetheless, the senses in which these words were generally used are as follows: Agápe (ἀγάπη agápē[1]) means "love: esp. charity; the love of God for man and of man for God."[2] Agape is used in ancient texts to denote feelings for one's children and the feelings for a spouse, and it was also used to refer to a love feast.[3] Agape is used by Christians to express the unconditional love of God for his children.[4] This type of love was further explained by Thomas Aquinas as "to will the good of another."[5] Éros (ἔρως érōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion."[6] The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love." Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." In the Symposium, the most famous ancient work on the subject, Plato has Socrates argue that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth, the ideal "Form" of youthful beauty that leads us humans to feel erotic desire – thus suggesting that even that sensually based love aspires to the non-corporeal, spiritual plane of existence; that is, finding its truth, just like finding any truth, leads to transcendence.[7] Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth through the means of eros. Philia (φιλία philía) means "affectionate regard, friendship," usually "between equals."[8] It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle.[9] In his best-known work on ethics, Nicomachean Ethics, philia is expressed variously as loyalty to friends (specifically, "brotherly love"), family, and community, and requires virtue, equality, and familiarity. Furthermore, in the same text philos denotes a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers. Storge (στοργή storgē) means "love, affection" and "especially of parents and children"[10] It's the common or natural empathy, like that felt by parents for offspring.[11] Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant. This is also used when referencing the love for ones country or a favorite sports team. So when you think about it from a biblical prespective all people have the breath of god within them, gods breath also causes the trees and grass to grow or wither. In this sense you could say that god is life itself, god is existence from whom all life is sustained. Wisdom 11.24 24 Yes, you love everything that exists, and nothing that you have made disgusts you, since, if you had hated something, you would not have made it.25 And how could a thing subsist, had you not willed it? Or how be preserved, if not called forth by you?26 No, you spare all, since all is yours, Lord, lover of life!
Quote from: Jolly on 02/06/2016 01:43:20Interestingly I'll probably annoy you more and get biblical. So God from the Bible is existence. "He exists" and always did hence at the end of the infinite chain- there has to be an orginal source, that was not created.As Jews Pray everyday 'God is one', unity, also love, as love and one are the same thing in Hebrew, ofcourse that's what love means in Hebrew, to love is to be one, you'll need to forget the selfish "love" the west thinks about or the loves of the greeks which had four different types of love yet none of them really relate to the concrete unity of the Hebrew, expressed through realtionship- As Jesus expressed John 17.21 "I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one--as you are in me, Father, and I am in you." Quote Ancient Greek has four distinct words for love: agápe, éros, philía, and storgē. However, as with other languages, it has been historically difficult to separate the meanings of these words when used outside of their respective contexts. Nonetheless, the senses in which these words were generally used are as follows: Agápe (ἀγάπη agápē[1]) means "love: esp. charity; the love of God for man and of man for God."[2] Agape is used in ancient texts to denote feelings for one's children and the feelings for a spouse, and it was also used to refer to a love feast.[3] Agape is used by Christians to express the unconditional love of God for his children.[4] This type of love was further explained by Thomas Aquinas as "to will the good of another."[5] Éros (ἔρως érōs) means "love, mostly of the sexual passion."[6] The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love." Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." In the Symposium, the most famous ancient work on the subject, Plato has Socrates argue that eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth, the ideal "Form" of youthful beauty that leads us humans to feel erotic desire – thus suggesting that even that sensually based love aspires to the non-corporeal, spiritual plane of existence; that is, finding its truth, just like finding any truth, leads to transcendence.[7] Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth through the means of eros. Philia (φιλία philía) means "affectionate regard, friendship," usually "between equals."[8] It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle.[9] In his best-known work on ethics, Nicomachean Ethics, philia is expressed variously as loyalty to friends (specifically, "brotherly love"), family, and community, and requires virtue, equality, and familiarity. Furthermore, in the same text philos denotes a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers. Storge (στοργή storgē) means "love, affection" and "especially of parents and children"[10] It's the common or natural empathy, like that felt by parents for offspring.[11] Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant. This is also used when referencing the love for ones country or a favorite sports team. So when you think about it from a biblical prespective all people have the breath of god within them, gods breath also causes the trees and grass to grow or wither. In this sense you could say that god is life itself, god is existence from whom all life is sustained. Wisdom 11.24 24 Yes, you love everything that exists, and nothing that you have made disgusts you, since, if you had hated something, you would not have made it.25 And how could a thing subsist, had you not willed it? Or how be preserved, if not called forth by you?26 No, you spare all, since all is yours, Lord, lover of life! Why are you bringing philosophy into this thread when it has nothing to do with what I experienced that night in 2011?
So it is only in the Bible, which I have read as a Christian for over 45 years can one express the attributes of Almighty God, his creative work and his origin?
God love does not extend for instance to child pedophilia sex abusers and perverts, Ultimately everyone that has ever lived with stand before Almighty God at the great Judgement seat and account for every action of inaction done in this life.
"Not all people have God Spirit within them", our bodies are the Temple of God" and God will not dwell in the heart/temple of those who hate him!
I know what agapa means, it would not extend to the likes of depraved despots like Hitler (Sorry for using Hitler but he is a perfect example of a Evil person worthy of judgement) I am extremely informed on all things philosophical and have read for instance Plato's Republic so please stop assuming that I am ignorant!
God is the source of life as far as a human being is concerned we are not just atoms in a huge consciousness or ocean we call God. We are all uniquely made by God and he has given each of us a subjective conscious reality of self, separate from him, but also intrinsically eternal like him.Sensual pleasure experienced with another beings is one of the greatest gifts God has ever given to mankind and this extends into the afterlife in a much more intense, sustainable way that one can imagine from the perceptive of our human bodies.Nothing I wrote is my essay conflicts with Biblical Scripture?