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Quote from: Halc on 14/11/2022 21:18:30Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 14/11/2022 20:55:18If we could accept an "edit" to the details of the Big Bang TheoryThat's like accepting an edit to 2+2=4 to 2+3=4. A simple change, but the mathematics don't work anymore. You are free to still believe that 2+3=4 because it makes you feel happy, but it isn't a valid theory. You are also utterly free to ignore where people point out where 2+3=4 doesn't work and continue asserting it, and even asking if anything is wrong with it.True. TRUE.That is why I hypothesize out here on the "lighter side", and I don't call my rantings a theory; they are ideas for discussion.165953,166043,
Quote from: Bogie_smiles on 14/11/2022 20:55:18If we could accept an "edit" to the details of the Big Bang TheoryThat's like accepting an edit to 2+2=4 to 2+3=4. A simple change, but the mathematics don't work anymore. You are free to still believe that 2+3=4 because it makes you feel happy, but it isn't a valid theory. You are also utterly free to ignore where people point out where 2+3=4 doesn't work and continue asserting it, and even asking if anything is wrong with it.
If we could accept an "edit" to the details of the Big Bang Theory
Why does the Universe require any ''bangs'' ...
Quote from: DarkKnight on 06/12/2022 16:05:37Why does the Universe require any ''bangs'' ...To address that part of the issue from my layman level perspective, a Big Bang type of event seems to be a good explanation for the expansion of the observable universe.
Receding objects best explains an extension of observable space .
The Hubble red shift is based on visible matter , not space.
The Big Bang is somewhat an incomplete theory with several fundamental errors .
This misleading information unfortunately gives the student the wrong perception of physics and astronomy.
Although this is technically true, what fundamental errors do you specifically think it has?
The BB magically manifests a high temperature , dense state , would be my main objection .
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 05:32:45The BB magically manifests a high temperature , dense state , would be my main objection .I'm not sure what your objection is. There are multiple lines of reasoning to indicate the early universe was in a very hot and dense state. If your objection is that we don't know why the universe started off that way, then you are moving out of the realm of science into philosophy. For instance the science of general relativity tells us that mass warps space time. Why does mass warp space time? That is not a science question that is a philosophical question.
The first principle of evidence should always be in determining if the evidence is relative to the subject or the evidence has another meaning(s) . One should never automatically assume that the alledged evidence proves something to be true because evidence can be viewed in different contexts by the observer. It is important we are clear in our minds what the evidence is relative to, or this can lead to false facts entering the education system . Reliable first principle information and reliable evidence is imperative for building a factual underlying basis of any subject. Without this first principle, any subject is open to ridicule and expression of disapproval .The reliability of proceding information that is derived from principle information , can be considered in being only as reliable as the principle information . If strict disciplines of how we view principle information is not adhered too , then again proceding information may not be factual information .
There is multiple reasoning that the early universe started off in a low temperature , low density , sparse state .
Space-time is a math model
Space-time is an actual thing.
Science deny the existence of any sort of aether , isn't your reply contradictive ?
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 15:40:09Science deny the existence of any sort of aether , isn't your reply contradictive ?Space-time isn't aether.
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 14:41:11There is multiple reasoning that the early universe started off in a low temperature , low density , sparse state .Do you have a source for this idea or any evidence for this?
Then what do you suggest is curving that Origin asked about ?
My brain is the source of this new information
The dense state could not occur without previously being a sparse, low density state .
Space-time.
Space-time is a mathematical model
Quote from: DarkKnight on 08/12/2022 20:54:30Space-time is a mathematical modelNo, it's an actual thing. I already said that before.
Which implies a physical substance that can be curved relative to flat space
I propose this substance is conserved zero point energy that is within the x-ray region of light .
If that was true, we'd all be dead because we would be constantly exposed to x-rays.