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Quote from: Europan Ocean on 07/08/2020 10:42:41The priests who do evil, confess, Confession is good for the soul. Hanging is good for society (it's cheaper than imprisonment and doesn't require the church to negotiate pension and redundancy payments).Where there is evidence that a church has failed to report criminal activity to the police, the entire Company should be fined and its officers debarred and imprisoned. Why has this not happened?
The priests who do evil, confess,
The psychologist can handle them on legal matters.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 07/08/2020 10:42:41 The psychologist can handle them on legal matters.It's not really their role.But that's only tangentially related to the point.The psychologists are qualified to do psychology.The lawyers are qualified to practice law.And the priests are... here's what you seem to be missing... not actually any damned use at all.They are just self serving scroungers.
Mother Theresa of Calcutta
The priests won't hear confessions if they are not secret.
There seems to be some strange assumption that "confessing" to a priest achieves anything useful.It's possible that the priest gets some vicarious pleasure from it, which is hardly a good thing.It may make the criminal feel better about themself- which is a bad thing.
many such stories but they are not sensational,
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 07/08/2020 19:57:15The priests won't hear confessions if they are not secret.So a priest could become an accessory to a crime, and should then be prosecuted as such. There being no god, there is no such thing as sin, only crime.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 08/08/2020 14:55:51many such stories but they are not sensational,Which shows there's nothing special about priests.
We could do with more religion in schools
I find only a handful of priests are powerful.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 08/08/2020 15:07:11I find only a handful of priests are powerful.And that's a handful too many.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 08/08/2020 15:05:58 We could do with more religion in schoolsYes. Look at all the good it has done in Northern Ireland, Iraq, Nigeria, the partition of India......Until people learn to despise religion, and the scum who profit from it, they will despise each other because of it.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/08/2020 18:55:48Quote from: Europan Ocean on 08/08/2020 15:07:11I find only a handful of priests are powerful.And that's a handful too many.By powerful I mean they have beneficial wisdom and spirituality, uplifting, justifying, giving peace and confidence...
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/08/2020 18:33:52Quote from: Europan Ocean on 08/08/2020 15:05:58 We could do with more religion in schoolsYes. Look at all the good it has done in Northern Ireland, Iraq, Nigeria, the partition of India......Until people learn to despise religion, and the scum who profit from it, they will despise each other because of it.The quality of the religious education is crucial.
The quality of the religious education is crucial.
Religion and better, spirituality, puts things in perspective better, since even atheists have a sense of the supernatural and are fascinated by it in the cinemas. I mean sound Christian teaching.
There is a sound logic to the ideas the fair and good Christian teaching.