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Does anyone else experience severe jet lag? Excessive hangover from moderate drinking?......lasting for days, as POIS does.I've always wondered if the above out-of-proportion reactions come from a disruptive mechanism similar to the one that creates POIS, but not with exactly the same symptoms. A mechanism whereby the mind and body (hormones? neurotransmitters? etc.) are thrown "off balance" .
Quote from: pyropeach on 28/06/2009 10:55:45Quote from: B_Jim on 28/06/2009 07:45:55Welcome Chipdouglas.About fatigue/exhaustion :It's a recurrent debate we have here. Please keep in mind all Pois sufferers don't have the same symptoms and that's why it's so difficult to find some consensus. There are different "forms" of Pois. Fatigue is of course a very common symptoms here but in the same time it's not acurate... Is this a physical fatigue (muscular...) ? Mental fatigue (cognition...) ? Both ? Keep in mind this : each case is different.A very good point that it is crucial to clearly articulate what we mean when we say "fatigue" and "exhaustion". Good point. "anxiety" might be another symptom that is difficult to clearly articulate. I think the general impression people have is that "anxiety" is something consciously generated, or can be controlled through medication. However, the anxiety I experience with POIS isn't anything like "normal" anxiety that I might get over an exam, etc. It's long lasting, reasonably constant in duration, and largely unresponsive to medication or any conscious effort to control it. One of the key differences is that "normal" anxiety is a result of thinking about something in particular, whereas this is present regardless of that. I thought this might be similar to the "distress" experienced by people with sugar handling problems (or very high cortisol levels). There's also a definite social anxiety that comes with (my) POIS, which isn't normally present when I am symptom free. This is certainly just part of the larger "anxiety" issue, and may give some clues about its origin. I think it's associated with POIS "bringing my defenses down". I discussed the anxiety symptom with a neuroscientist who has done research on orgasm using functional imaging, and he suggested that the amygdala is de-activated, and my anxiety was generated by a "lack of alertness". This is the opposite of what one might expect -- that the amygdala is over-activated.
Quote from: B_Jim on 28/06/2009 07:45:55Welcome Chipdouglas.About fatigue/exhaustion :It's a recurrent debate we have here. Please keep in mind all Pois sufferers don't have the same symptoms and that's why it's so difficult to find some consensus. There are different "forms" of Pois. Fatigue is of course a very common symptoms here but in the same time it's not acurate... Is this a physical fatigue (muscular...) ? Mental fatigue (cognition...) ? Both ? Keep in mind this : each case is different.A very good point that it is crucial to clearly articulate what we mean when we say "fatigue" and "exhaustion".
Welcome Chipdouglas.About fatigue/exhaustion :It's a recurrent debate we have here. Please keep in mind all Pois sufferers don't have the same symptoms and that's why it's so difficult to find some consensus. There are different "forms" of Pois. Fatigue is of course a very common symptoms here but in the same time it's not acurate... Is this a physical fatigue (muscular...) ? Mental fatigue (cognition...) ? Both ? Keep in mind this : each case is different.
Well i did just drink last night. A bit of a hangover today... not too bad though.
Quote from: demografx on 28/06/2009 21:37:49Does anyone else experience severe jet lag? Excessive hangover from moderate drinking?......lasting for days, as POIS does.I've always wondered if the above out-of-proportion reactions come from a disruptive mechanism similar to the one that creates POIS, but not with exactly the same symptoms. A mechanism whereby the mind and body (hormones? neurotransmitters? etc.) are thrown "off balance" .I do!. I used to be able to enjoy a few beers with the guys but since my POIS syptoms materialized 20 years ago I got to the point where if I drink 1 beer I get a hang over. In fact, I've likened my POIS symptoms to a hang over in many discussions.
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