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Has anyone taken a testosterone supplement? If so, What amount and during what times of POIS is it taken? I am debating trying to get a prescription as I believe it may help. Thanks.
Following the discussions about astaxanthin in salmon I tried krill oil again with the rest of my current supplementation regime (niacin, multi-vit in the morning, zma at night and at least 2.5g vit c during the day). Have had 2 0's during the 5 days I've tried it. I should be wrecked from POIS, jet lag and travel/work related stress but I actually feel even better than I did at the start of this supplementation. Krill oil is adding something else that wasn't there with my standard trigylceride fish oil.I've had very little POIS symptoms. They might even be normal responses to an O. I can't quite figure it out as I've never known "normal" responses before. The turning point for me was when I discovered niacin. Things just started to improve and I take it almost every morning when I wake up. It feels odd to flush each morning but it's better to feel odd than depressed and scatter brained. But on days when I feel really good and don't intend to have an O, I skip the extra 100mg and just take the 50 with my multi-vit. So far so good.
Quote from: jferr on 14/01/2012 06:03:43Quote from: Quasar on 13/01/2012 16:03:55Quote from: jferr on 12/01/2012 09:37:58Not a problem, demografx. Thank you for the response. My bloodwork was as follows:Name, Result, Reference.Follicle Stimlating Hormone: 1.6mIU/mL, (1.3 - 19.3) Lower EndJon, i remember my FSH hormone was also in the lower end!Interesting, Quasar. Were you able to get the levels back to normal? And, If so, What did you to fix it?I don't know yet. But i guess not. My Dr. didn't comment on it. I've found this:"FSH is a key component in male fertility because it stimulates the growth of sperm. When a man has a high level of FSH, it means that the testicles are not producing enough of a hormone called inhibin, which keeps FSH levels in their normal range. This generally indicates that there has been a testicular failure, either a partial testicular failure or a full testicular failure. Treatment for elevated FSH levels in men, therefore, really requires treating the cause of the testicular failure, as opposed to actually treating the levels of FSH directly."And this: http://www.livestrong.com/article/151903-reasons-for-a-low-fsh-in-males/
Quote from: Quasar on 13/01/2012 16:03:55Quote from: jferr on 12/01/2012 09:37:58Not a problem, demografx. Thank you for the response. My bloodwork was as follows:Name, Result, Reference.Follicle Stimlating Hormone: 1.6mIU/mL, (1.3 - 19.3) Lower EndJon, i remember my FSH hormone was also in the lower end!Interesting, Quasar. Were you able to get the levels back to normal? And, If so, What did you to fix it?
Quote from: jferr on 12/01/2012 09:37:58Not a problem, demografx. Thank you for the response. My bloodwork was as follows:Name, Result, Reference.Follicle Stimlating Hormone: 1.6mIU/mL, (1.3 - 19.3) Lower EndJon, i remember my FSH hormone was also in the lower end!
Not a problem, demografx. Thank you for the response. My bloodwork was as follows:Name, Result, Reference.Follicle Stimlating Hormone: 1.6mIU/mL, (1.3 - 19.3) Lower End
Quote from: Mutant Man on 17/01/2012 10:21:44Anyone got any potentially effective treatments I can try? So far, Niacin incoporated wellman doesn't work on me. Should I try independent niacin by itself? Loratadine does only as little help as my POIS is predominantly physical....I use Nature's Way 100mg capsules. Pure natural niacin, and in capsules you can open them and divide doses easily.The rules are strict for it to work:fast at least 3 to 5 hours before niacin-niacin 1 hour before "O"-take just enough to flush (the flush is the guide) slightly less also works but not as well, but if you don't flush you don't know if you're close (I take 100mg to 150mg)-Wait for the peak of the flush to pass before "O"That's all, but anything else probably won't work.
Anyone got any potentially effective treatments I can try? So far, Niacin incoporated wellman doesn't work on me. Should I try independent niacin by itself? Loratadine does only as little help as my POIS is predominantly physical....
Quote from: kurtosis on 18/01/2012 03:05:16Following the discussions about astaxanthin in salmon I tried krill oil again with the rest of my current supplementation regime (niacin, multi-vit in the morning, zma at night and at least 2.5g vit c during the day). Have had 2 0's during the 5 days I've tried it. I should be wrecked from POIS, jet lag and travel/work related stress but I actually feel even better than I did at the start of this supplementation. Krill oil is adding something else that wasn't there with my standard trigylceride fish oil.I've had very little POIS symptoms. They might even be normal responses to an O. I can't quite figure it out as I've never known "normal" responses before. The turning point for me was when I discovered niacin. Things just started to improve and I take it almost every morning when I wake up. It feels odd to flush each morning but it's better to feel odd than depressed and scatter brained. But on days when I feel really good and don't intend to have an O, I skip the extra 100mg and just take the 50 with my multi-vit. So far so good. But Kurtosis, you mention you take 100mg Niacin at mornings? Shouldn't it be taken 1h before an O. ? Does it work for you this way?
You will find that CFS is almost the same thing that POIS.
Quote from: mrraba on 19/01/2012 01:59:36You will find that CFS is almost the same thing that POIS. .We are open to ideas, but I think that consensually, this forum has ruled out CFS and POIS' interrelatedness:Click Here for nearly 300 CFS-POIS Google discussion results at our forum:
I have already try omega3/fish oil supplements without success. From all anti-inflammatory(or Anti-Pois at least ) food I've tried salmon is the best. Some nutritionnists think Astaxanthin is a good anti-inflammatory. In fact, it is the pink pigment of salmon, shrimp...
Omega-3 phospholipid supplements that combine DHA/EPA and phospholipids into the same molecule have shown marked promise in early clinical trials....Krill omega-3 phospholipids, containing mostly phosphatidylcholine (PC) with DHA/EPA attached, markedly outperformed conventional fish oil DHA/EPA triglycerides in double-blind trials for premenstrual syndrome/dysmenorrhea and for normalizing blood lipid profiles....Phosphatidylserine with DHA/EPA attached (Omega-3 PS) has been shown to alleviate AD/HD symptoms.... Krill omega-3 phospholipids demonstrated anti-inflammatory activity, lowering C-reactive protein (CRP) levels in a double-blind trial. Utilizing DHA and EPA together with phospholipids and membrane antioxidants to achieve a triple cell membrane synergy may further diversify their currently wide range of clinical applications
Quote from: demografx on 19/01/2012 04:14:21Quote from: mrraba on 19/01/2012 01:59:36You will find that CFS is almost the same thing that POIS. .We are open to ideas, but I think that consensually, this forum has ruled out CFS and POIS' interrelatedness:Click Here for nearly 300 CFS-POIS Google discussion results at our forum:If I might try to clarify Demo. We have had a lot of people who think that CFS and POIS are the same thing, as we have had a lot of people who try to compare POIS to or even discount it as being some other thing.It's a very complicated entanglement. In many cases, pursuing cures for other things that have similar symptoms only leads to dead end streets.We have one case (that we're sure of here) where a member went to a renowned doctor and was diagnosed with CFS induced by POIS, so we DO know there can be a connection.However they ARE two different ailments, with a high degree of similarity, and may even have an overlapping etiology. Certainly in cases where this happens you have to be open to the common factors and try yo use them to understand the mechanisms.Very interestingly, there has been heated debate here about porn addiction as the CAUSE of POIS, or more outright, misnomer for POIS. However this probably comes from a similar overlap of etiology. But you can't cure POIS in the same way you cure porn addiction. They are two completely different problems.You have to get down to the nitty-gritty and find out what causes the anomalies in whichever system is failing. CFS in our member above is likely caused by the extra load of POIS on the effected system. Perhaps POIS could be looked at from the point of view of sex-addiction, thinking that rather than us over-exercising our sexuality, something in us reacts in a similar way with a very low load. One would have to study the details.But we have to be very careful in outright applying the fix for one to cure the other.Your post to me is very exciting though. More and more I am seeing that POIS seems to be related to the whole neurotransmitter factory in us related to histamines, serotonin and dopamine etc. (therefore niacin is a big player)BTW, you may have seen in the welcome message that we have a threaded forum at POIS Center. If you want to join up, go over and sign up, then send me a PM here, so that I can pick you out from the 50 SPAM applications that we get per day.
Thanks Martin. Omega3 caps (sardines and maquerels oil ? )didn't help me. I want to try astaxanthin but it's expansive. Welcome Littledragon !Thanks for our 2 great programmers. Chat works perfectly.--The role of the liver against allergy process is very important . Hmm, I don't remember why we started to talk about the liver.
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