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Could spacetime have expanded because of the Uncertainty Principle?

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Re: Could spacetime have expanded because of the Uncertainty Principle?
« Reply #20 on: 03/05/2012 16:10:56 »
i don't know
can u tell me?
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Re: Could spacetime have expanded because of the Uncertainty Principle?
« Reply #21 on: 06/05/2012 10:38:43 »
Quote from: yor_on on 01/05/2012 17:26:06
"Since Markoupoulou's work is suggesting that particles exist on Hilbert Spaces in some kind of special sub-structure before the emergence of geometry"

Can you expand on how she mean there Wulf, and give us some good links..

Yes... I will find a good paper... her original one would be the best example. I'll get it in a minute.
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Re: Could spacetime have expanded because of the Uncertainty Principle?
« Reply #22 on: 06/05/2012 10:42:35 »
Here you go. This is her toy-model for an emergent spacetime model.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0911.5075v3.pdf

My Induced Time theory is like a sister theory to her model, based on separate principles for its arguements.
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Re: Could spacetime have expanded because of the Uncertainty Principle?
« Reply #23 on: 06/05/2012 10:44:50 »
Quote from: Dharmansh on 29/04/2012 09:58:56
Quote from: Ęthelwulf on 26/04/2012 20:31:06
Quote from: Dharmansh on 25/04/2012 19:08:00

if two of these Dwarfs did spiral towards each other at fast speeds, they might.
Y cant mercury be attracted to sun because of sun's gravity???

All planets in our solar system is attracted by the suns gravitational force. In fact, all objects atleast theoretically speaking are influenced by every gravitational body in the universe.
i m telling dat y can't some planets go inside the sun..see Pluto is revolving around the sun due to sun's gravity pluto is very far... so y is mercury revolving??? y it is not sucked by the sun?
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They don't fall into the sun directly because they are bound to follow geodesics around the sun - these are curvilinear paths.
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Re: Could spacetime have expanded because of the Uncertainty Principle?
« Reply #24 on: 13/05/2012 01:04:00 »
@ "there was little to no space at all in the beginning, meaning that particles where literally stacked up on top of each other".

-> there was very much less time much further back, meaning that on 'big scale' the galaxies appeared closer and after much more time in the future, they appear further from each other. There was no beginning (of time). Spacetime had expanded because time is expanding. Leaves problems at 'particle scale'. But what if matter traverses a discrete space (an possible cause of uncertainty principle)? - > this makes it possible for paricles to be extremely close (in space) but never actualy stacked up and so  - from any refference t-point - in an infinity of time to past and future. + in curvature - no time, hence:

class discretespace($time) extends uncertaintyprinciple()
{
 if (HasCurvature())
     {
     DoesntExpandWithTime()
     }
   else
     {
      ExpandsWithTime() {class DistanceBetweenGalaxies($time) extends DistanceBetweenAnyPairOfObjectsWithMassBeyondTheGravityEffect($time) }
     }
}
this is where my intuition leads me regarding expansion, especialy including the odity of faster than light speed of expansion (C constant, time building up (exponentialy?) )

(please allow some time for me to be able to read your math, in the meantime, whats a good text-book for that? :)

Could time as a quantity expand exponentialy between any pair of refference points in time?

Language:

$x -> variable x
foo($bar) -> function foo, with function-argument $bar
class x() -> object property
« Last Edit: 13/05/2012 02:09:37 by wucko »
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