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Why can't you grasp that tunneling is even more evidence that matter waves are not physical?
If you admit to them not being physical, it opens up my bigger theory of spacetime being separate from QM.
not being physical,
I should have wrote QM waves are separate from spacetime. Observation/Spacetime grants them partial physicality.
Quote from: pittsburghjoe on 17/06/2019 20:40:35not being physical, You keep failing to explain what you think that means.Is that because you can't?
You don't get that this discovery never would have happened if I went to the same schooling as you.
I encounter it every day in Health and Safety Executive inspectors who do not read their own company handbook (ignorance) and then invent new "laws" (arrogance) in order to extract fees from their victims.
Quote from: pittsburghjoe on 17/06/2019 00:48:27Atoms bouncing off each other collapses their waves.That doesn't even parse.There's something you need to understand.It has already been pointed out, but you have missed it.Imagine making a grating with a gap between the "wires" that's a little bit smaller than the molecules you are using.Classically, no particles will get through it.QM and the uncertainty principle means that a few will. They will quantum tunnel through.Here's the bit you don't understand.If you take the grating and hammer it until the wires are squashed flat and there are no gaps so it becomes a metal foil then repeat the experiment...More atoms will get through the foil even though it no longer has gaps in it. (In some circumstances)Do you understand that? The probability of tunneling is related to the thickness of the barrier.Hammering it flat makes it thinner and so it's more likely that atoms will tunnel through.Obviously, with the grating destroyed, there's no diffraction pattern.And the (smaller number of) atoms that went through the grating before you hammered it flat would also show no clear diffraction pattern because, at that level, the atoms are not going through the gaps.It's the same , classically, with lightYou know the equationd sin θ = λ Where lambda is the wavelength and d is the spacingyou can rewrite that assin θ = λ /d Well, if you make d smaller than lambda then you are trying to find an angle where sin theta is more than 1, but that's impossible.Diffraction doesn't work if the wavelength is bigger than the grating's spacing.And, returning to QM, a particle can't be "smaller" than the associated wavelength.So, you can't sensibly calculate a diffraction pattern for the the experiment you have proposed.So there's no way to say whether the particles would follow it or not.And, as has been pointed out before, you also can't measure it because, in practice big things don't go through small holes.
Atoms bouncing off each other collapses their waves.
Quote from: pittsburghjoe on 17/06/2019 20:40:35If you admit to them not being physical, it opens up my bigger theory of spacetime being separate from QM.But QM isn't entirely separate from spacetime, whether viewed as particles or waves. MOST of it is inextricably linked.Hints:wavelengthdistance between slitsdecay timeetc.As I have said previously, there ARE some aspects of QM that are not tied to spacetime, like spin, which instead should be thought of in "spin space"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(physics)http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/qmech/Quantum/node88.html
Quote from: chiralSPO on 17/06/2019 20:56:23Quote from: pittsburghjoe on 17/06/2019 20:40:35If you admit to them not being physical, it opens up my bigger theory of spacetime being separate from QM.But QM isn't entirely separate from spacetime, whether viewed as particles or waves. MOST of it is inextricably linked.Hints:wavelengthdistance between slitsdecay timeetc.As I have said previously, there ARE some aspects of QM that are not tied to spacetime, like spin, which instead should be thought of in "spin space"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(physics)http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/qmech/Quantum/node88.htmlall variables you list can propagate within matter waves
What do you think "non physical" means?
for lack of a better term: ghosts
If you describe a matter wave better than me you win a prize.