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Yes. In my teens & early 20s. It faded after that. I was being treated for CFS and doing a number of things so whether it changed exclusively due to that or just faded with age I don't know. It was quite stressful and it made it hard to relax & enjoy life. I didn't see a doctor about it specificaly because I felt bad about saying I had some sort of mental problem at that age. I picked up that an O seem to exacerbate things, but did not consider it was exclusively due to orgasm.
I have noticed that my symptoms seem to be magnified if I masturbate to pornography as opposed to having sex with my girlfriend or masturbating w/o pornography. I believe that this is due to the increased dopamine consumption correlated with pornography.
Quote from: acronym on 03/08/2012 12:46:10Yes. In my teens & early 20s. It faded after that. I was being treated for CFS and doing a number of things so whether it changed exclusively due to that or just faded with age I don't know. It was quite stressful and it made it hard to relax & enjoy life. I didn't see a doctor about it specificaly because I felt bad about saying I had some sort of mental problem at that age. I picked up that an O seem to exacerbate things, but did not consider it was exclusively due to orgasm.The interesting thing is many of the symptoms of POIS seem to resemble CFS, both physical and cognitive. It would be interesting to know if anyone else has had CFS and POIS, or had a severe or chronic viral infection before POIS
Quote from: dante88 on 04/08/2012 21:26:19I have noticed that my symptoms seem to be magnified if I masturbate to pornography as opposed to having sex with my girlfriend or masturbating w/o pornography. I believe that this is due to the increased dopamine consumption correlated with pornography.I have noticed the exact same. pois is definitely worse from jerking off to porn compared to having sex. There is a bit off a catch 22 here though. For some of us pois makes it hard to pick up girls or get a girlfriend...and its hello Allie Sin/Tia Ling. lol. I have always believed dopamine was a key part of the issue and it has been discussed here before, but pushed in the background as other theories have come up. Wish it was easy to test for neurotransmitters (one recognised by conventional medicos). Some of the symptons I had like agitation, anxiousness, paranoia I thought could actually be attributed to excess dopamine....still I tick off most things on the dopamine deficiency check list except limb problems. Google the 'edge effect' which is an article/book from a doctor who specialised in balancing neurotransmitters.I tried the herb macuna puriens which is supposed to help raise dopamine and I had mixed results. The first time I took it I definitely thought it helped with pois, (but I was also on antibiotics at some time), the next two times no. The quality of this herb can be quite variable, but the last lot I got I seeked out a good quality version. I tried an antidepressant that was supposed to help on the dopamine front and it made no difference. I continue to take Tyrosine and that helps a bit but its no cure.Have you read articles that can prove there is a different dopamine response with pornography compared to sex? Fooling around in bed with a sexy woman for an hour is very pleasurable and stimulating.
Anyone here that have both mental and physical symptoms that don't really go away even not having an 'O' for a while?
Do our bodies just lack components x, y, and z and thus unable to heal quickly after ejaculation/sexual stimulation/orgasm?
Quote from: Mer on 06/08/2012 04:48:59Do our bodies just lack components x, y, and z and thus unable to heal quickly after ejaculation/sexual stimulation/orgasm? My question would be. Why is the heck is there a lack of x,y,z components? It's cool that you can put something in you that increases your wellbeing but the deficiencies are only a symptom of a different problem.
Quote from: makrofag on 06/08/2012 08:32:37Quote from: Mer on 06/08/2012 04:48:59Do our bodies just lack components x, y, and z and thus unable to heal quickly after ejaculation/sexual stimulation/orgasm? My question would be. Why is the heck is there a lack of x,y,z components? It's cool that you can put something in you that increases your wellbeing but the deficiencies are only a symptom of a different problem. Well, my only problem with this would be the way I developed POIS. I was able to have an orgasm whenever I wanted. I could have done it multiple times a day if I really wanted to. So I don't think my body was lacking the "x,y,z components" at least at the time. Maybe I could have slowly lost these nutrients, or the capability of producing these nutrients that my body needed to recover. But the thing is, I think POIS is much worse than a void of certain nutrients. If it were then everybody experiencing POIS would just be tired after orgasm. Nothing really explains all of the other symptoms. At least the ones that I have. The irritability, migraine, etc. I think POIS is a much worse reaction than a simple loss in nutrients.
Quote from: acronym on 04/08/2012 00:18:24amijgoro, what you are going through is pretty severe. Any physical contact to your penis!! I assume it has to be a stimulating sensation, and not just from even urinating. From what I read here foamy urine is not a typical pois symptom. In your case though the faulty plumbing seems to be causing a greater problem for you, combined with you being young with a hair trigger penis. So your urologist came up the 'shutter between the bladder and prostate doesn't shut tight enough' diagnosis. Can he operate to remedy this situation? That would be my first line of attack, given that there is no definitive cure on this site....though there have been a number of sufferers here recently who have made a lot of progress. You should read the posts from the past month especially, and try some of the supplements/meds. I took to what my urologist said a little differently. What i understood from the meeting was because the shutter isn't tight enough and semen is leaking into my bladder and the overall fact that i have pois is the combination why i think im having these terrible symptoms. I searched the internet for some sort of medication/supplement that could possibly tighten the shutter and reverse the retrograde ejaculation. I found that sudafed a sinus and cold congestion relief medication has that exact effect. i tried out the sudafed and miraculously it worked! I didn't have that hair trigger penis anymore. the only problem was that the actual medication itself was making me feel very bad and brain fogged, an effect that has been haunting me with medication for a long time now (medication including ritalin and other anti depression/ anxiety drugs). my conclusion from that is 1. The problem is the shutter being week and semen leaking into my bladder that is causing the symptoms. 2. The pois that im experiencing understood by semen escaping the prostate being the cause of the symptoms mean that its the semen that is the problem! And thirdly my boddy has a serious problem regarding bad reactions to a large range of medications that needs an explanation.
amijgoro, what you are going through is pretty severe. Any physical contact to your penis!! I assume it has to be a stimulating sensation, and not just from even urinating. From what I read here foamy urine is not a typical pois symptom. In your case though the faulty plumbing seems to be causing a greater problem for you, combined with you being young with a hair trigger penis. So your urologist came up the 'shutter between the bladder and prostate doesn't shut tight enough' diagnosis. Can he operate to remedy this situation? That would be my first line of attack, given that there is no definitive cure on this site....though there have been a number of sufferers here recently who have made a lot of progress. You should read the posts from the past month especially, and try some of the supplements/meds.
So I wonder if anyone has ever tried an anti-androgen. They're sometimes used by people who have a hair loss problem or who have severe acne, but a side effect is lower sex drive. I came across a site where they were talking about reducing their drive because some of them are orgasm addicts.(http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread.php?1018-30-Days-of-Androcur). One of the interesting things I read was that it made one of the users clear minded and relaxed after taking it. It also significantly reduces semen volume. Many of the POISers here also have a very high libido, including me. I always wondered if a very high libido is a symptom of POIS, or if it is the other way around. I'm very casually thinking about trying something like this, but I wouldn't take such high doses that the users are taking over there, as I would want to lower my drive, not eliminate it. At the very least, it would reduce the amount of orgasms I have and allow me to abstain for way, way longer. This is just a question and not a recommendation to anyone. Also, there are a few side effects such as hot flashes lower muscle density.
Absolutely -- without question -- your POIS scientific research fund at NORD is 100% safe and sound. Once a fund reaches $10,000 -- there is no way, whatsoever, that the funds will EVER be moved. You heard it here! :-)
So I wonder if anyone has ever tried an anti-androgen.
Quote from: amijgoro on 04/08/2012 12:14:34Quote from: acronym on 04/08/2012 00:18:24amijgoro, what you are going through is pretty severe. Any physical contact to your penis!! I assume it has to be a stimulating sensation, and not just from even urinating. From what I read here foamy urine is not a typical pois symptom. In your case though the faulty plumbing seems to be causing a greater problem for you, combined with you being young with a hair trigger penis. So your urologist came up the 'shutter between the bladder and prostate doesn't shut tight enough' diagnosis. Can he operate to remedy this situation? That would be my first line of attack, given that there is no definitive cure on this site....though there have been a number of sufferers here recently who have made a lot of progress. You should read the posts from the past month especially, and try some of the supplements/meds. I took to what my urologist said a little differently. What i understood from the meeting was because the shutter isn't tight enough and semen is leaking into my bladder and the overall fact that i have pois is the combination why i think im having these terrible symptoms. I searched the internet for some sort of medication/supplement that could possibly tighten the shutter and reverse the retrograde ejaculation. I found that sudafed a sinus and cold congestion relief medication has that exact effect. i tried out the sudafed and miraculously it worked! I didn't have that hair trigger penis anymore. the only problem was that the actual medication itself was making me feel very bad and brain fogged, an effect that has been haunting me with medication for a long time now (medication including ritalin and other anti depression/ anxiety drugs). my conclusion from that is 1. The problem is the shutter being week and semen leaking into my bladder that is causing the symptoms. 2. The pois that im experiencing understood by semen escaping the prostate being the cause of the symptoms mean that its the semen that is the problem! And thirdly my boddy has a serious problem regarding bad reactions to a large range of medications that needs an explanation.Amigoro,what are the ingredients of the Sudafet? Where I live we don't have Sudafet, but I can look for other cold congestion relief medication that has more or less the same ingredients. Many thanks! I also have this "oil"on top of urine. And when I leave my first urine after ejaculation a night in a bottle, it has many white clouds in it.