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Quote from: DonQuichotte on 30/11/2013 20:28:36Guys :See here below "The conscious mind ..." By David J.Chalmers , especially the comments there below :https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/144960.The_Conscious_MindWhich comment(s) in particular? Again, since you've read it, what is the empirical evidence for his theory about how consciousness works? How does he propose to test his newer ideas?The only thing I saw in the comments that might be close to an answer to that question is:"He goes onto argue that we ought to search for basic psycho-physical laws which would naturally govern how and when phenomenal experience arises and its structure. He argues that the structure of consciousness mirrors or is invariant with awareness, awareness being a psychology property describing how information is retrievable by the system. Chalmers ends the book on a speculative note exploring how information might give rise to elementary kinds of consciousness, wherever information might be found and goes onto apply his insights into arguing for the possibility of strong AI"Which is interesting, but something you strongly argued against in your discussions with David Cooper.
Guys :See here below "The conscious mind ..." By David J.Chalmers , especially the comments there below :https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/144960.The_Conscious_Mind
I am interested only in his refutation of materialism... regarding that book ,the latter i haven't read yet...
I haven't read it yet , i have read just the introduction which is displayed here above , as you can see : it was recommended to me by some friends on the field .The introduction pretty summarizes up the content of the book : pretty demolishing for materialism,and that by an ex-materialist such as Chalmers .
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 30/11/2013 20:31:00I haven't read it yet , i have read just the introduction which is displayed here above , as you can see : it was recommended to me by some friends on the field .The introduction pretty summarizes up the content of the book : pretty demolishing for materialism,and that by an ex-materialist such as Chalmers .Oh, well, that settles it then. Thanks so much. Did I mention I'm writing a book as well? Here's the introduction:"In chapter one, I present a solution the Riemann Hypothesis in mathematics and solve the P vs NP problem. Then in chapter two, I show how to detect gravity waves (it’s easier than you think!) Moving on to chemistry, I explain why some enzymes exhibit faster than diffusion kinetics. Chapter four provides a quick and easy translation of the previously undeciphered language of Rongorongo, and in Chapter five I predict the stock market returns for the next ten years. Chapter six explains the cause of Fibromyalgia (turns out it really is caused by garden gnomes – who knew?) and in chapter seven, I disclose the location of Jimmy Hoffa’s remains, as well as all of the socks that go missing in the laundry and the unmatched lids to plastic containers. Finally, in chapter eight, I balance the budgets of several nations in a fair and equitable way, and solve world hunger." If you don’t have time to read my book, don’t worry, it’s all pretty much right there in the introduction.
Why have you still not answered my question?
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 30/11/2013 21:11:55I am interested only in his refutation of materialism... regarding that book ,the latter i haven't read yet...Says it all really.
And I am also writing a book entitled; What, on Earth, is Intelligence? I'm anxious to examine the acute differences between Consciousness, which is missing from the equation in this thread, and Intelligence, which has been exercised by many contributors here but not appropriated by it's author............................Ethos
Quote from: Ethos_ on 01/12/2013 15:30:58And I am also writing a book entitled; What, on Earth, is Intelligence? I'm anxious to examine the acute differences between Consciousness, which is missing from the equation in this thread, and Intelligence, which has been exercised by many contributors here but not appropriated by it's author............................EthosWell, genius
Do you want me to display the whole book here , come on :I gave you its introduction + a link which summarizes the content of that book + the comments of people there who actually read it ...What do you want more ?
I can even give you a link where you can download that whole book for free and safely as well, if you want to .
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 01/12/2013 17:46:14Do you want me to display the whole book here , come on :I gave you its introduction + a link which summarizes the content of that book + the comments of people there who actually read it ...What do you want more ?Well, one would expect you to have read it before deeming it a crushing blow to materialism. Just sayin'.
QuoteI can even give you a link where you can download that whole book for free and safely as well, if you want to .Thanks. At the moment, though, I'm busy reading the Table of Contents of several important novels. I much prefer the Table of Contents of Dostoevsky's works to Tolstoy's.
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 01/12/2013 18:06:39Quote from: Ethos_ on 01/12/2013 15:30:58And I am also writing a book entitled; What, on Earth, is Intelligence? I'm anxious to examine the acute differences between Consciousness, which is missing from the equation in this thread, and Intelligence, which has been exercised by many contributors here but not appropriated by it's author............................EthosWell, genius Well sir, I thank you for the compliment. Nevertheless, that comment only proves your inability to distinguish truth from error. I'm no genius and neither are you sir. I challenged you once before in this thread to convince us with repeatable evidence and you chose to ignore my challenge. Typical behavior from someone who is only seeking attention. I reiterate, offering you this attention is a waste of time and as a remedy, I suggest we all apply this cure to the question.
Quote from: Supercryptid on 30/11/2013 23:27:01Why have you still not answered my question?That was not a question , just a quiz
... The introduction of that book i displayed here above + its summary as displayed in that link i did provide + the comments of people in the latter link + some of my friends ' comments on the book + Sheldrake's talk about Chalmers in some of his books on the subject of materialism + ....+....are reasons enough to assume that Chalmers has been devastating for materialism ,and he's not the only one who has done just that .
Can someone here try to tell me why physicists have been trying to come up with some sort of a "theory of everything " = theory of nothing ?, since science is not about definite holistic knowledge , just about approximate conjectures,just about temporary knowledge ... .
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 01/12/2013 19:44:49Can someone here try to tell me why physicists have been trying to come up with some sort of a "theory of everything " = theory of nothing ?, since science is not about definite holistic knowledge , just about approximate conjectures,just about temporary knowledge ... .The label 'Theory of Everything' was a somewhat sarcastic description for a theory that would reconcile general relativity and quantum mechanics, in much the same way as 'The Big Bang' was a mocking description for the start of the expanding universe. They both caught the eye of the media and the public imagination. I'd be surprised if any intelligent person take 'Theory of Everything' entirely literally.
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