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Yes, my idea is a bit difficult to explain as Bored chemist has asked how can the dead think its self into existence and how can a universe even think at all.
The problem is that, according to you, a non existent thing thinks.That's clearly impossible.The impossibility was recognised a long time ago.
Then the thinking / conscious universe is the second state coming into being
Where did the previous stage(s) come from?
Now I see the problem the coming into existence at the very start is as the big bang theory so this is matter that is not living and therefore it is dead. Then the thinking / conscious universe is the second state coming into being so the dead but existing universe began to develop into a conscious entity.
So that leaves room for other theories.
Why is this in new theories? This clearly is not a theory or a hypothesis, this is a wag at best. This should be moved to 'that can't be true'.
that are logically impossible.
Quote from: Origin on 25/08/2021 11:12:41Why is this in new theories? This clearly is not a theory or a hypothesis, this is a wag at best. This should be moved to 'that can't be true'.How can one conduct any research on the beginning or before the big bang the whole concept of the universe's beginning is a hypothesis at best no matter what the possibilities are. There is electrical activity in the universe we do exist we have a mind we consider does this make it a theory call it what you like.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/08/2021 11:19:34that are logically impossible.That just means you don't understand if something seems not logical that doesn't mean it is.
NoIt is logically impossible for a thing, which does not exist, to think.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/08/2021 11:33:22NoIt is logically impossible for a thing, which does not exist, to think.The start of the universe was not the universe it started with the ability to think/dream and became the universe from that point on.
I'm sure we are all waiting for you to provide your extraordinary evidence for this extraordinary claim.
However, even if it was true then it would contradict the thread's title.It would mean that [whatever it was which possessed] "the ability to think/dream ""may have thought" the Universe "into existence".
This should be moved to 'that can't be true'.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 25/08/2021 12:09:42I'm sure we are all waiting for you to provide your extraordinary evidence for this extraordinary claim.The world has been waiting for 101 years for proof of the big bang still waiting I will come up with my evidence tomorrow.
Wrong in every material regard.
The world has been waiting for 101 years for proof of the big bang
Not really as I have said that it started with electrical activity that is not the universe the electrical activity is the mind that started the universe.
Science doesn't deal in proof, it deals in evidence and theories.
say evidence and theories can be very wrong