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I dunno guys, it is ok to feel like crap once and a while, but everyday if you have sex... that''s just impossible to deal with... people around me think I'm a different person [:-'(]
Quote from: goingcrazy on 05/02/2009 06:31:46I dunno guys, it is ok to feel like crap once and a while, but everyday if you have sex... that''s just impossible to deal with... people around me think I'm a different person [:-'(]Goingcrazy, it's really tough. But don't give up. Every time I wanted to give up the fight yet didn't, something new came along to make me glad I continued on. For over 30 years of this nonsense. We'll beat this thing yet!
Quote from: underwater on 05/02/2009 03:49:04Why do we recover?That question stumped me the most!!
Why do we recover?
Quote from: martin88 on 05/02/2009 01:07:42Deloun, I believe in this theory about noradrenaline (or norepinephrine). I thought exactly the same thing and wanted to post about this, but the fact that some people tried SNRI without success made me think that perhaps it's not true.Martin, maybe your theory is still possibly correct. Effexor (SNRI) didn't work for me but maybe SNRI's just aren't powerful enough for norepinephrine balancing?
Deloun, I believe in this theory about noradrenaline (or norepinephrine). I thought exactly the same thing and wanted to post about this, but the fact that some people tried SNRI without success made me think that perhaps it's not true.
I believe that we recover because our body filters out toxins on a daily basis... another possibility is our body stops attacking itself (auto-immune) because it god rid of what it needs to get rid of... other than that I have no other thoughts.
Welcome Rob58. At the beginning we had only 2000 views during first months and now 220,000 Web is a fantastic tool to regroup us considering the low prevalence of this syndrome.
Quote from: deloun on 04/02/2009 19:56:55The theory that I have about POIS, is that the symptoms may be caused by a deficiency of one or more of the catecholamines of which noradrenaline may be the most relevant.Deloun, I believe in this theory about noradrenaline (or norepinephrine). I thought exactly the same thing and wanted to post about this, but the fact that some people tried SNRI without success made me think that perhaps it's not true.I have slightly this symptom you mention about genitals when in pois. Running, working, taking chocolate or coffee help (before the side effects for these foods). The symptom is mentionned in this page for the first remedy : http://www.hpathy.com/diseases/spermatorrhoea-symptoms-treatment-cure.asp Also I know that coffee is increasing noradrenaline, so maybe before taking it NA is continuously low and after we take coffee the complete depletion occurs because we can't produce enough NA.In a book I have it's written that sympathetic nerves exhaustion is causing pois, and I think these nerves are releasing noradrenaline. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_nervous_systemhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoradrenalineMy MD also thinks I have a problem with noradrenaline because he wants me to take clomipramine or an equivalent.Noradrenaline is highly involved in motivation and concentration.I think the herb rhodiola is supposed to increase noradrenaline but for me it causes a complete insomnia, perhaps a sign that something is depleted.
The theory that I have about POIS, is that the symptoms may be caused by a deficiency of one or more of the catecholamines of which noradrenaline may be the most relevant.
A lot of people with depression might actually have pois...
Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic.
What I'm thinking is. A lot of people with depression might actually have pois, you know? I thought I had depression for about 2 years until I found out it was from the sex. I was even prescribed lexapro, an antidepressantAnd it's interesting I have an uncle who is depressed... maybe we have identical genes and he just hasn't figured out it is from sexI dunno guys, it is ok to feel like crap once and a while, but everyday if you have sex... that''s just impossible to deal with... people around me think I'm a different person [:-'(]
Quote from: deloun on 04/02/2009 19:56:55- Sceletium Tortuosum helps reducing POIS symptoms. It's a herb of which the main active alkaloid is mesembrine, which is a PDE4 inhibitor with a mechanism in a way similar to rolipram (11) that raises levels of noradrenaline.Deloun, do you know if there's a relationship between your noradrenaline theory and PDE-5 inhibitors like Levitra? And with testosterone?
- Sceletium Tortuosum helps reducing POIS symptoms. It's a herb of which the main active alkaloid is mesembrine, which is a PDE4 inhibitor with a mechanism in a way similar to rolipram (11) that raises levels of noradrenaline.
Until this forum, I have not focused on the adrenal glands. Girlwind seems to have influenced me in focusing on adrenal rehabilitation. That type of nutritional therapy involves considering adrenal fatigue. I might have made the mistake of always thinking I constantly had too much norepinephrine and epinephrine. Instead, the last few hours it dawned on me that I may be deficient in norepinephrine. Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic. Could my enhanced metabolism be working with my new supplements to make some more norepinephrine/epinephrine? Could my frequent insomnia and lousy sleep be due to slow metabolism and reduced production of norepinephrine etc.? Could there be general metabolic shutdown in some of us after orgasm, thus causing failure of adrenals to produce what they're supposed to produce? What is metabolic shutdown? I don't know. I just coined this in my flow of consciousness post. However, could it be that the caloric expenditure is so overwhelming that the body refuses to reup for a few days. It's not going to "burn", it's going to not even rest. It's just quitting for a while.
Hi Guys,I have been reading the postings for about a month now and finally caught up. Found you at the top of the list after googling "orgasm" and "fatigue". Ironically my major symptoms are a bit better described by "brain fog" than by fatigue but I was sure that using brain fog as a term would not give me any results..I have known that my POIS symptoms were linked to orgasm since I was 15 but have probably had POIS ever since I first had an orgasm. I am now 50 years old and have suffered from the same symptoms with about the same intensity throughout. My next post I intend to bore you with my symptoms and theories. Thanks for being here.
Quote from: underwater on 05/02/2009 03:49:04Also, I have been noticing something weird lately. I sometimes go into the water fatigued and after a few laps feel just depleted. I fight not to get out. Then, after 15 minutes, I get some kind of rush, and I'm energetic.Yes that happens to me all the time after exercising i get energetic but pois still exist. I think it is because of endorphinnsI have also noticed that heavy physical exercise can make me feel a bit better when having POIS symptoms. Scientific research shows that heavy physical exercise can cause an increase of catecholamines, so that may explain why. I was already thinking about adding this point to the POIS noradrenaline theory list. Are there any others that notice a bit of improvement after heavy physical exercise?