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To present an argument as to why time could be very separate to space is losing the plot; theBox, what do you think?
Quote from: opportunity on 06/04/2018 12:55:48To present an argument as to why time could be very separate to space is losing the plot; theBox, what do you think?Time is a duration of physical existence. I do not think any other than that.
theBox...how greatly then is physical existence to your view of time, "stuff" associated to space?Disinterested....maybe the question "what is space" made theBox want to present an argument "for space" against "everything else"? Maybe he's playing the question?Still, to "say" space is separate from everything else is slightly presumptive. Occam would be most disappointed.
Time is 100% physical.
Time itself is simply rate of change or duration and is a property of change not a thing unto itself.
Quote from: disinterested on 07/04/2018 16:13:01Time itself is simply rate of change or duration and is a property of change not a thing unto itself.You say time itself is, then in the same breath say not a thing unto itself, being contradictory. Time is the definition we give to something that exists, i.e change. So yes time 100% exists because it is just a word we use for something else as a short version to a full explanatory sentence such as a quantifiable re-cordable measurement directly proportional to a duration of existence.
Quote from: Thebox on 07/04/2018 17:10:58Quote from: disinterested on 07/04/2018 16:13:01Time itself is simply rate of change or duration and is a property of change not a thing unto itself.You say time itself is, then in the same breath say not a thing unto itself, being contradictory. Time is the definition we give to something that exists, i.e change. So yes time 100% exists because it is just a word we use for something else as a short version to a full explanatory sentence such as a quantifiable re-cordable measurement directly proportional to a duration of existence.I wrote "Time itself is simply rate of change or duration and is a property of change not a thing unto itself" .This thread is about space, not time. Time is a variable which changes depending on gravity or acceleration, it ticks at a different rate in space than it does in a gravity field. Space time only came into existence as a result of the expansion of space after the big bang. Time is not a constant and changes depending on rate of change of space. If you took the time to read either of the two theories on inflow gravity you would realize this.
Huh? What on Earth you talking about, what is the space-time you keep mentioning? What is this time of space and expanding space? You are quite imaginative I give you that. Have you thought of writing a book? I bet it would be a best seller, you could call it the imaginary rabbit of space that we can all pretend ages and stretches.
Quote from: Thebox on 07/04/2018 21:48:50Huh? What on Earth you talking about, what is the space-time you keep mentioning? What is this time of space and expanding space? You are quite imaginative I give you that. Have you thought of writing a book? I bet it would be a best seller, you could call it the imaginary rabbit of space that we can all pretend ages and stretches. DITTO You could call yours N theory and the imaginings of self declared genius For a photon neither time or space exist. It is only in space time after a possible BB that time exists from our perspective. https://phys.org/news/2014-05-does-light-experience-time.html
Quote from: disinterested on 08/04/2018 08:48:08Quote from: Thebox on 07/04/2018 21:48:50Huh? What on Earth you talking about, what is the space-time you keep mentioning? What is this time of space and expanding space? You are quite imaginative I give you that. Have you thought of writing a book? I bet it would be a best seller, you could call it the imaginary rabbit of space that we can all pretend ages and stretches. DITTO You could call yours N theory and the imaginings of self declared genius For a photon neither time or space exist. It is only in space time after a possible BB that time exists from our perspective. https://phys.org/news/2014-05-does-light-experience-time.htmlYou believe a Photon exists? It does not exist, a Photon is a ''sprite'' of ZPE traversing ''ebb'' and ''flow'' through the electrostatic pre-existing n-field (neutral field) ''Aether''.
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2018 16:02:58Quote from: disinterested on 08/04/2018 08:48:08Quote from: Thebox on 07/04/2018 21:48:50Huh? What on Earth you talking about, what is the space-time you keep mentioning? What is this time of space and expanding space? You are quite imaginative I give you that. Have you thought of writing a book? I bet it would be a best seller, you could call it the imaginary rabbit of space that we can all pretend ages and stretches. DITTO You could call yours N theory and the imaginings of self declared genius For a photon neither time or space exist. It is only in space time after a possible BB that time exists from our perspective. https://phys.org/news/2014-05-does-light-experience-time.htmlYou believe a Photon exists? It does not exist, a Photon is a ''sprite'' of ZPE traversing ''ebb'' and ''flow'' through the electrostatic pre-existing n-field (neutral field) ''Aether''.I am not blind. I know light exists.
Do you know Photons exist or are you just believing what you have read and learnt? Show me one single piece of observable evidence that shows a Photons existence ?
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2018 17:28:59Do you know Photons exist or are you just believing what you have read and learnt? Show me one single piece of observable evidence that shows a Photons existence ? Such as a single photon detector? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_counting
A photon is a type of elementary particle, the quantum of the electromagnetic field including electromagnetic radiation such as light, and the force carrier for the electromagnetic force (even when static via virtual particles). ... Some defined physical parameters of a photon are listed.
Rather vague, a type of elementary particle, meaning no idea really . What type ? The type that is made up of imagination?
Quote from: Thebox on 08/04/2018 18:41:04Rather vague, a type of elementary particle, meaning no idea really . What type ? The type that is made up of imagination? A Photon is a boson see wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BosonThanks spoon for attempting to reason with the box.
Examples of bosons include fundamental particles such as photons, gluons, and W and Z bosons
Thanks spoon for attempting to reason with the box.