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A ridiculous belief, but within that belief, a logical choice with no moral implications because it doesn't affect anyone else.
Yes. You first despise your daughter because some pervert has told you to do so, then kill her. Passes Test 2 by default because you no longer love her, but not Test 1 because you wouldn't like it if I killed you for any reason, let alone one that was none of my legitimate concern.
I make a pact with Satan that I will kill you if I win my next game of chess. Do you like the idea? If not, the pact fails Test 1. (You are safe, for the time being at least - I haven't played for ages.)
I have defined it as such through my tests.
Not a moral matter. With luck, we all die from natural causes, and a chance encounter with an avalanche is no different from one with a virus.
Don't you think it's immoral to know that a natural disaster is about to happen, but do nothing to save lives from it?
It does affect someone elses. At least it casts fear among his classmates to steal in the future. It also ignited heated political debates about religious laws.
Quote from: alancalverd on 06/12/2020 16:01:23Yes. You first despise your daughter because some pervert has told you to do so, then kill her. Passes Test 2 by default because you no longer love her, but not Test 1 because you wouldn't like it if I killed you for any reason, let alone one that was none of my legitimate concern.Not necessarily. There are known people who are willing to accept death penalty to redeem their sin.
Here are some cases:1. Bruce Willis'character in the movie Armageddon sacrifice his life to save humanity from extinction. 2. Jephtah's daughter sacrificed herself to prevent God's wrath which could kill many of her people through natural disaster. 3. Jephtah's sacrificed her daughter to prevent God's wrath if he break his promise. Can you see the difference and similarities?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 06/12/2020 21:57:04Don't you think it's immoral to know that a natural disaster is about to happen, but do nothing to save lives from it?Even in modern day, there are still some societies which believe that homosexuality makes god angry and send natural disasters like hurricane and earthquake unless they do something to stop it. Some have even gone as far as executing gays in public by throwing them from high buildings. How your moral standards evaluate these situations?
Quote from: alancalverd on 06/12/2020 16:11:26Not a moral matter. With luck, we all die from natural causes, and a chance encounter with an avalanche is no different from one with a virus.Don't you think it's immoral to know that a natural disaster is about to happen, but do nothing to save lives from it?
The statutory penalty casts fear, as intended by all statutory penalties. But the action of volunteering for that penalty affects nobody else.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 06/12/2020 22:14:34Here are some cases:1. Bruce Willis'character in the movie Armageddon sacrifice his life to save humanity from extinction. 2. Jephtah's daughter sacrificed herself to prevent God's wrath which could kill many of her people through natural disaster. 3. Jephtah's sacrificed her daughter to prevent God's wrath if he break his promise. Can you see the difference and similarities? Self-sacrifice has no moral implications. Test 1 is satisfied and test 2 is irrelevant. Sacrificing someone else for any reason is immoral. NB there is an exception in wartime - see the Calais Garrison during Dunkirk.
The fact that it was executed at all lends credibility to the rule. Unlike many other rules which are no longer obeyed by modern societies.
It's commonly understood that altruistic behaviors reflect high moral value. Donating a dollar for charity is a good thing. But if you do that while having nothing else, you are usually considered to have better moral compared to if you're a billionaire.
Your recognition of an exception implies that you don't really think that the rule is universal. The follow up question would be, what is the justification for the exceptions?
What do you think about immorality? Why people become immoral? What causes them to do immoral actions? Is it a genetic trait? Or is it acquired from experience? Is it contagious? Can it be cured?
A universal morality requires a universal terminal goal.