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Quote from: jfoldbar on 03/04/2020 06:29:49im having trouble working out what a corona doctor and some random bible passages have to do with the thread title.should i start discussing the compression ratio of various diesel engines.? perhaps there a link to the trustworthiness of the bible there somehow? I'd be playing the piano in a whore house in The Big Easy, drinking port and stumbling to the john.
im having trouble working out what a corona doctor and some random bible passages have to do with the thread title.should i start discussing the compression ratio of various diesel engines.? perhaps there a link to the trustworthiness of the bible there somehow?
Quote from: duffyd on 03/04/2020 06:54:22Quote from: jfoldbar on 03/04/2020 06:29:49im having trouble working out what a corona doctor and some random bible passages have to do with the thread title.should i start discussing the compression ratio of various diesel engines.? perhaps there a link to the trustworthiness of the bible there somehow? I'd be playing the piano in a whore house in The Big Easy, drinking port and stumbling to the john. Is that a metaphore ?
im by no means a scientist or even highly educated. but the last 20 odd years (since the internet) it always seems to be my hobby to learn about all things science. if i could have my life over i would have studied hard and tried to become some kind of braniac.so in all my reading about all kinds of subjects there is always the same common underlying theme that is there if you decide to see it. that the religions of the world are just wrong.
there is so much scientific and mathematical evidence
against the bible that it is just staggering that any educated (scientific) person accepts it.
.for a laymen i get it. the whole 'feel good' or 'someone watching down upon us' is a very sobering thought.
and if you dont know any better than why not believe it. (that used to be me) but anyone that bothers to invest the time to learn about the world around us and learns a bit from each field of science(and maths) can easily see that the bible just simply does not correspond with what we observe in the world. (this is inherently different to the concept of a creator though)
so, given all the knowledge that man has now, why do people still consider the bible as 'more' than a story book
Here’s the message: People change.
“The poor have one advantage. At least they know when they are loved for themselves.”
yet the scientific truth and religious truth
2 pages effectively that discuss the creation of the world
how we should live? how should we treat others? What is the nature of evil or sin?
The bible is concerned with human interaction, peace, justice, life.While science can say how things are it will never tell you how to live save some dietary suggestions.
Again meaningless in this regard
Not at all, I highly recommend you listen to some of the lectures on the psychological significance of the biblical stories given by Jorden Peterson
Again this a highly simplistic view of religion and faith.
And never will it because as I suggested before that is not what the bible is interested in.
Sadly the position you hold is one many people do, a very condescending one that is also based more in ignorance then understanding.
The Noah story is the story where mankind becomes corrupt so God sends a flood. And there is a link drawn in this story to corruption and floods.When new Orleans was flooded a few years back it happened because corrupt politicians for decades had stopped spending money on Levy defenses.
why wouldn't they
Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 05:48:00Here’s the message: People change. So we should base our judgements on what we hope somebody might become, rather than what he actually did? It would certainly simplify the whole process of criminal justice - why bother with arrest, trial and punishment? No.Quote“The poor have one advantage. At least they know when they are loved for themselves.” but not enough to prevent them starving, by definition. So how is that an advantage? Advantage over what?
Quote from: alancalverd on 04/04/2020 09:02:01Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 05:48:00Here’s the message: People change. So we should base our judgements on what we hope somebody might become, rather than what he actually did? It would certainly simplify the whole process of criminal justice - why bother with arrest, trial and punishment? No.Quote“The poor have one advantage. At least they know when they are loved for themselves.” but not enough to prevent them starving, by definition. So how is that an advantage? Advantage over what? We could eliminate hunger if we wanted to. Dylan wrote, "you know it costs more to store the food than it do to give it."
Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 09:40:10Quote from: alancalverd on 04/04/2020 09:02:01Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 05:48:00Here’s the message: People change. So we should base our judgements on what we hope somebody might become, rather than what he actually did? It would certainly simplify the whole process of criminal justice - why bother with arrest, trial and punishment? No.Quote“The poor have one advantage. At least they know when they are loved for themselves.” but not enough to prevent them starving, by definition. So how is that an advantage? Advantage over what? We could eliminate hunger if we wanted to. Dylan wrote, "you know it costs more to store the food than it do to give it."If you haven't seen it, Anastasia with Ingrid Bergman, Helen Hayes and Yul Brynner will explain the why. An amnesiac who may be a member of the Romanov Dynasty realizes that love is the key to life not riches, position, status, etc.
I hate bullies. I have hated them my whole life, even as a little kid, and go out of my way to support anyone who is mistreated.
Quote from: duffyd on 02/04/2020 23:47:18 I hate bullies. I have hated them my whole life, even as a little kid, and go out of my way to support anyone who is mistreated.So, what's your take on someone who will condemn you to eternal torment if you don't worship Him?Is it possible to be more of a bully than that?
If so, how do you reconcile a god like that with what the scripture says about Jesus sacrificing his life out of his love for us?
Quote from: duffyd on 04/04/2020 11:46:23If so, how do you reconcile a god like that with what the scripture says about Jesus sacrificing his life out of his love for us?Easy.It's a made up story.We even know who did the latest major bit of editing- (to try to remove some of the inconsistencies).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_NicaeaGiven that we know which bunch of blokes made it up, why do you think it's anything but made up?
not Christ's painful bloody sacrifice?
why do you think it's anything but made up?