[alancalverd]

Very few countries were  founded on democracy. Where is is effective, it has evolved over millennia of bloodshed and is under continual development and revision, mostly to preserve whatever advantage the current rulers have acquired, rarely to extend the franchise or improve representation of the electorate's wishes.

It doesn't matter how rational and informed the citizens are: as long as you have political parties, policy and debate  are always aimed at damaging the opposition before the next election. 

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

How To Navigate The Moral Landscape - Sam Harris & Brian Greene

In multidimensional moral landscape, finding the scientifically optimum moral decisions through prioritizing various parameters or adjusting their weights requires a projection to a single axis. That axis is what I called the universal moral compass. The answer would be necessarily probabilistic due to incompleteness of the information we have about the universe.

[alancalverd]

Please state the direction of the axis.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Specification Gaming: How AI Can Turn Your Wishes Against You

When we specify goals for AIs, we must ensure that our specifications truly capture what we want. Otherwise, the behavior of AI systems will be different from what we want them to do. This can be catastrophic in high-stakes situations and at high levels of AI capability. If you watched our video "The Hidden Complexity of Wishes", you'll recognize these problems as the same kind of failure.

The specifications problem is more closely related to short term feedback, and emphasize on practicality. While the intention or terminal goal of the system is more closely related to long term feedback, and emphasize on consistency. Their roles are similar to moral rules and moral standards, respectively.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Please state the direction of the axis.

Universal Utopia 2 : Universal Terminal Goal Analogy to Find The Universal Moral Compass

You can skip to around 3:40 to get to the part describing the universal moral compass.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Searching for universal moral compass on YouTube, I found this.

Your Moral Compass Could Be Broken

Most people would claim to know the difference between right and wrong, but how can we be sure that our moral compass is truly pointing us in the right direction?

Although we might believe that our own moral principles are unwavering, we typically don?t apply them objectively across the actions of both loved ones and strangers, those within close proximity, and those far away. 

This begs the question: what is morality, and is it objective? To truly understand our moral compass, it is important to learn exactly how it found ?north.? Dr. Liane Young, a psychology professor at Boston College, explains more.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Can universal morality exist?

Joshua and Ryan discuss if it's possible to achieve universal morality with mathematical physicist, economist, and podcaster Eric Weinstein.

IMO, Eric has a good starting point, and he was close to discover the universal morality.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Searching for universal moral compass on YouTube, I found this.

I think I also found a gem.

Josh Rabenold - Moral Compass

LYRICS:

[Verse 1]
I miss reading the paper
Sprawled out on my mother?s kitchen table
I miss buying an album
To search the liner notes for managers and labels

[Pre-Chorus 1]
When exactly did the next-door neighbor
Take on the role of a perfect stranger?
Why can?t they look me in the eye
Anytime that I?m walking by?
[Chorus 1]
So you got yourself a moral compass
Well, please be careful where you?re pointing that thing
I think you?d find we?ve got a lot in common
If you?d only let me pour you a drink

[Post]
Oooh
If you?d only let me pour you a drink

[Verse 2]
I just found all the letters
An old girlfriend from high school used to write me
I can?t even remember
The last time that I saw my own handwriting

[Pre 2]
When exactly did that kid from college
Start making cold calls for Scientology?
Why can?t I look him in the eye
Anytime that he?s walking by?

[Chorus 2]
So you got yourself a moral compass
Well, please be careful where you?re pointing that thing
I think you?d find we?ve got a lot in common
That there?s a song we both know well enough to sing
[Post]
Oooh
That there?s a song we both know well enough to sing

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[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Henry Kissinger GOAT War Criminal Debate & Elon Musk Curses Out Advertisers | The Daily Show

Michelle Wolf responds to the latest news including Elon Musk telling boycotting advertisers to go f**k themselves, France banning smoking at various outdoor locations, and Ronny Chieng and Michael Kosta join to discuss Henry Kissinger?s death.

How would you compare war crimes?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

When someone just died, we usually only talk about their good things.

Was Henry Kissinger a War Criminal?

Henry Kissinger, America?s most controversial statesman, is dead. Let?s explore the record of a man that some call a war criminal, and see what we can learn about American politics.

Henry Kissinger and the Moral Bankruptcy of U.S. Elites

Henry Kissinger is dead at the age of 100. The former U.S. statesman served as national security adviser and secretary of state at the height of the Cold War and wielded influence over U.S. foreign policy for decades afterward. His actions led to massacres, coups and and even genocide, leaving a bloody legacy in Latin America, Southeast Asia and beyond. Once out of office, Kissinger continued until his death to advise U.S. presidents and other top officials who celebrate him as a visionary diplomat. Yale historian Greg Grandin says those glowing obituaries only reveal "the moral bankruptcy of the political establishment" that ignores how Kissinger's actions may have led to the deaths of at least 3 million people across the globe. Grandin is author of "Kissinger's Shadow: The Long Reach of America's Most Controversial Statesman."

[alancalverd]

How would you compare war crimes?

Same as any other crime. Has the guy broken the rules, how often, and with what effect?

The problem is Stalin's Dictum: "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." So you court-martial the private soldier who mistakenly shot an unarmed suspect (crime) and promote the general who organised the destruction of a city (strategic target).

Much the same applies in politics. You can order the early deaths of 60,000 care home residents and keep your pension, but under no circumstances can you pinch your researcher's bum or look at rude pictures on an official phone.

[alancalverd]

When someone just died, we usually only talk about their good things.

Not if "we" are antisemites.

And as Shakespeare put it

The evil that men do lives after them
The good is oft interred with their bones.

The intellectually puny are unable to challenge or insult anyone alive, but you can't libel the dead and they don't fight back, so any journalist or politician can gain airtime and money by claiming that the deceased was flawed. 100% hindsight can be seriously astigmatic.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Not if "we" are antisemites.

It's a common practice among both antisemitic and prosemitic societies.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The intellectually puny are unable to challenge or insult anyone alive, but you can't libel the dead and they don't fight back, so any journalist or politician can gain airtime and money by claiming that the deceased was flawed. 100% hindsight can be seriously astigmatic.

Hindsights are useful as lessons learned to prevent doing similar mistakes in the future. Moral questions inevitably run into is-ought problem. IMO, instead of completely separated, they can be related through the questions,
What is our current condition?
And
What ought to be done in the past to make it better?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Some say that money is the root of all evil.

Did Hamas Make Millions Betting Against Israeli Shares Ahead of Attack? | Vantage with Palki Sharma

Israeli is investigating claims by U.S. researchers that some investors may have known in advance of a Hamas plan to attack Israel on October 7 and used that information to profit from Israeli securities.

Someone bet against the Israeli stock market ahead of the war and research suggests they could be linked to Hamas?

So did Hamas short Israel? Palki Sharma tells you.

On the flip side, a comment to the video says.

Given the eerie silence of Israeli intelligence prior to Hamas attack, it could be premature to conclude that short sellers were Hamas ally

[alancalverd]

When did any intelligence service ever broadcast anything? Moron.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

When did any intelligence service ever broadcast anything? Moron.

Instead of broadcasting their findings, they ought to do something to prevent the undesired impacts. It's either they have desires unaligned with their people's, which means they are evil, or they are unable to detect and decipher the plans of their enemies, which means they are not that intelligent.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

We won't know what they want if we don't listen to what they want to say, although it doesn't mean that they are equally correct. The question might be a bit loaded, but it could be a trick to increase engagement.

Jewish Settlers: Why do you steal Palestinian land?

What is this project?: Do you want to know what Israelis and Palestinians really think about the conflict? Ask a question and I will get answers. All answers are from random people and all answers are included and unedited. The questions come from you, the viewers.

Palestinians: Does 'Free Palestine' mean destroy Israel?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Joe Rogan on NAKBA 1948 with Dave Smith #israel #palestine #conflict

[alancalverd]

or they are unable to detect and decipher the plans of their enemies, which means they are not that intelligent.

Or the enemy's security is better than you think. Never underestimate your enemy, but be prepared to sacrifice everything to overwhelm him.