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Quote from: Petrochemicals on 05/02/2021 20:55:08But in most years the flu toll is 5000 to 10000 people who could all be saved with quarantine. Are you just going to kill these people Alan.No need. There are enough people who object to taking the simplest and most effective preventive measure against epidemic, to ensure that the entirely avoidable death toll from COVID continues to rise, so I am sure that you and your kind can promote seasonal flu, bubonic plague and anything else that takes your fancy, without my help.
But in most years the flu toll is 5000 to 10000 people who could all be saved with quarantine. Are you just going to kill these people Alan.
Quote from: charles1948 on 05/02/2021 22:06:18Covid-19 doesn't kill on a large scale. It's not like the Black Death, which killed half the population of Europe,Thanks to the hysterical reaction of hospitalising the worst affected (Nightingale, 1860) and giving them supplemental oxygen (Priestley, 1774) antibiotics (Fleming, 1928) and dexamethasone (Hench, 1957) the mortality rate of COVID has been restricted from 20% to about 3%. Without hysterical adequate diet (Widdowson,1940) and sanitation (Bazalgette,1819) it is likely that the untreated death rate could indeed reach medieval levels.
Covid-19 doesn't kill on a large scale. It's not like the Black Death, which killed half the population of Europe,
Some readers of this forum, might get this impression:That certain regular posters on here are part of a conspiracy. Whose aim is to overthrow society, and bring about a revolution.And in order to advance the revolution, they are deliberately exaggerating the dangers of Covid-19.
he Black Death, which killed half the population of Europe,
It killed more than that.
they are deliberately exaggerating the dangers of Covid-19.
I believe the 20 percent mortality Alan is amongst those with underlying health conditions.
an increase in bee stings and food allergies.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 06/02/2021 07:07:46an increase in bee stings and food allergies.Citation, please.
I do not know how many more have passed away due to an increase in bee stings and food allergies.
Herd immunity occurs when about 80% of the remaining herd has been infected and survived. With a bit of encouragement, this could be achieved in about a year. En route to this happy state you would have 2,250,000 excess deaths and 10,000,000 acute hospital cases, of whom 5,000,000 would be permanently disabled, in the UK alone.
The number of recorded COVID deaths in Sweden doubled in the last 3 months, suggesting that they were indeed approaching herd immunity until they began vaccinating, which will spoil the statistics. "Effective measures to protect the vulnerable" is the exact opposite of herd immunity, where you allow the most vulnerable to die and leave a resilient population.
Hi,I honestly don't think, that it's exactly the same as last year in spring. This time the numbers of infections are way higher than they have ever been. I'm not a big fan of the current situation either, but that's how it is. I am also convinced that it will get better over the time. The medical research is crazy fast. Usually it would take a decade to create and deploy a vaccine for such a strong virus. A favorite sportsman of mine once said: If you can't change, you have to relax and stay calm. It is always hard to do the exact opposite of something to get to the solution. But all of us can at least give it a try...
Remind me again Alan what did they double from, was it one to two?
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 12/02/2021 17:19:20Remind me again Alan what did they double from, was it one to two? 6000 to 12000. As anyone with a real interest in the subject can discover. But you have to be numerate to understand statistics.
Don't these "pies" convey the essential statistical information at a glance.Far more quickly, and efficiently, than the equivalent table of numbers would?