0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Hi, I just discovered this forum and was wondering if I was suffering from POIS. I started smoking marijuana when I was nearly 16 and found it had a more major effect on me than other people and the days after I got major headaches. These headaches have really never gone away for me my whole life up to now, I'm 28. I had been blaming it on marijuana for a long time, even though I stopped smoking it about 4 or 5 years ago. About a year ago I found the nofap reddit, and then later yourbrainrebalanced.com, which both advocate abstaining from masturbation. I duly tried to give up but found it very difficult, I have been addicted to pornography for a long time, when I was younger I'd masturbate up to 7 or more times a day. I found though that not masturbating for a period of time made my headaches improve and I felt calmer, less angry and less anxious. However I'm wondering if I have this POIS or whether I just need to abstain for longer from masturbating in order to clear my headaches up. I notice a lot of people stay that they feel better within a few days or a week at the most, personally I feel better but the problem is still there, fuzzy head, headaches, depression etc. I feel glad that abstaining has helped as my life has improved but I'm wondering whether tackiling POIS might be a solution. Maybe I just masturbated too much when I was younger, causing my chronic headaches, and I now need a long period of abstinence in order to recover. I don't think it could be marijuana causing the continuing headaches as the last time I smoked it was years ago. I think what might have happened is I got bad marijuana withdrawal symptoms, a headache which dragged on, but I then made things worse by excessive masturbation. I basically didn't masturbate before feeling bad after smoking marijuana, it triggered a compulsive habit. If anyone could offer any advice that would be great, thanks
Quote from: Colm on 30/10/2013 09:23:08Quote from: alphaq on 18/10/2013 14:35:32Interesting questions for those that have cognitive symptoms:- Does anyone suspect their POIS in any way is related to sinus issues or a dry stuffy nose?- Does anyone have pressure in head/behind eyes, accentuated especially when moving eyes from the very left and to very right? (try this)- Does anyone have a pressure within head that can shift areas and sides? (sometimes controllably)- Does this pressure subside over time, and as the pressure lessens, the cognitive symptoms get lighter?- Does doing something that requires you to shift gravitational position, such as a handstand, or bending over, makes you feel like your head is about to explode?- Does the cognitive symptoms never seem to fully recover?The reason why I ask these is for diagnosing the cause of cognitive dysfunction, it might be very hard to find the solution by first identifying the problem and then testing treatments, or even looking directly for a root cause of POIS (which seems to be different for different people). Too many things may be the cause of cognitive symptoms such as brain fog. It might be easier to describe physical manifestations of POIS related to the head and brain and link that to pre-existing medical conditions that are more documented (maybe this will help shed light).I have seen at least a couple members that mentioned something regarding "pressure" and "cerebral vasoconstriction" and "blood flow", and realized that these most likely fall under the same category.I hypothesize a couple things for cognitive POIS:- In some way related to decrease or irregularity in cerebral blood flow- Maybe related to air/pressure inside the head- Could be a pre-existing medical condition worsened by orgasms- Could possibly be linked to sinus problemsAlphaq,I normally post on the POIS forum, however, I personally related very much to the Sinus related aspect for POIS that you mention above. I have had these symptoms for too many years. I also had a good few sinus operations about 15 years ago, and have been using Cortisone Nasal Spray daily for about 20 years to keep my sinuses clear. I now also use a PH balance Netipot that helps keep sinuses germ free. I don't know whether the root cause and cognitive symptoms are because of Sinus issues or whether the Sinus affected element is just one of many spin offs from orgasm. My sinus pressure has always gotten a lot worse for 3 days after O.My History...Close on 40 years with POIS. Until 6 months ago when I found these forums, I thought I was the only bloke in the world with this condition. Am now hopeful about the research and see a reason to hang in.For 3 days post Orgasm...My symptoms are headaches, cognitive melt down, poor mental functioning, irritability, depression, dermatalogical flare up, sinus flare up, mild to moderate social phobia. Symptoms (including Sinus pressure) subside, to 50% of the impact after day 3 beyond O.The only thing that help my POIS is Nasonex (a Sinus medicine).
Quote from: alphaq on 18/10/2013 14:35:32Interesting questions for those that have cognitive symptoms:- Does anyone suspect their POIS in any way is related to sinus issues or a dry stuffy nose?- Does anyone have pressure in head/behind eyes, accentuated especially when moving eyes from the very left and to very right? (try this)- Does anyone have a pressure within head that can shift areas and sides? (sometimes controllably)- Does this pressure subside over time, and as the pressure lessens, the cognitive symptoms get lighter?- Does doing something that requires you to shift gravitational position, such as a handstand, or bending over, makes you feel like your head is about to explode?- Does the cognitive symptoms never seem to fully recover?The reason why I ask these is for diagnosing the cause of cognitive dysfunction, it might be very hard to find the solution by first identifying the problem and then testing treatments, or even looking directly for a root cause of POIS (which seems to be different for different people). Too many things may be the cause of cognitive symptoms such as brain fog. It might be easier to describe physical manifestations of POIS related to the head and brain and link that to pre-existing medical conditions that are more documented (maybe this will help shed light).I have seen at least a couple members that mentioned something regarding "pressure" and "cerebral vasoconstriction" and "blood flow", and realized that these most likely fall under the same category.I hypothesize a couple things for cognitive POIS:- In some way related to decrease or irregularity in cerebral blood flow- Maybe related to air/pressure inside the head- Could be a pre-existing medical condition worsened by orgasms- Could possibly be linked to sinus problemsAlphaq,I normally post on the POIS forum, however, I personally related very much to the Sinus related aspect for POIS that you mention above. I have had these symptoms for too many years. I also had a good few sinus operations about 15 years ago, and have been using Cortisone Nasal Spray daily for about 20 years to keep my sinuses clear. I now also use a PH balance Netipot that helps keep sinuses germ free. I don't know whether the root cause and cognitive symptoms are because of Sinus issues or whether the Sinus affected element is just one of many spin offs from orgasm. My sinus pressure has always gotten a lot worse for 3 days after O.My History...Close on 40 years with POIS. Until 6 months ago when I found these forums, I thought I was the only bloke in the world with this condition. Am now hopeful about the research and see a reason to hang in.For 3 days post Orgasm...My symptoms are headaches, cognitive melt down, poor mental functioning, irritability, depression, dermatalogical flare up, sinus flare up, mild to moderate social phobia. Symptoms (including Sinus pressure) subside, to 50% of the impact after day 3 beyond O.
Interesting questions for those that have cognitive symptoms:- Does anyone suspect their POIS in any way is related to sinus issues or a dry stuffy nose?- Does anyone have pressure in head/behind eyes, accentuated especially when moving eyes from the very left and to very right? (try this)- Does anyone have a pressure within head that can shift areas and sides? (sometimes controllably)- Does this pressure subside over time, and as the pressure lessens, the cognitive symptoms get lighter?- Does doing something that requires you to shift gravitational position, such as a handstand, or bending over, makes you feel like your head is about to explode?- Does the cognitive symptoms never seem to fully recover?The reason why I ask these is for diagnosing the cause of cognitive dysfunction, it might be very hard to find the solution by first identifying the problem and then testing treatments, or even looking directly for a root cause of POIS (which seems to be different for different people). Too many things may be the cause of cognitive symptoms such as brain fog. It might be easier to describe physical manifestations of POIS related to the head and brain and link that to pre-existing medical conditions that are more documented (maybe this will help shed light).I have seen at least a couple members that mentioned something regarding "pressure" and "cerebral vasoconstriction" and "blood flow", and realized that these most likely fall under the same category.I hypothesize a couple things for cognitive POIS:- In some way related to decrease or irregularity in cerebral blood flow- Maybe related to air/pressure inside the head- Could be a pre-existing medical condition worsened by orgasms- Could possibly be linked to sinus problems
Quote from: kurtosis on 30/06/2013 12:04:22Quote from: curedone2013 on 17/06/2013 01:18:59Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I really think I am on to something here. It is very different from what I have believed before regarding my symptoms.I wanted to share my struggle and recent success with fighting POIS. From my experience with it, I believe that POIS is a form of a lipid disorder that leads to the other downstream effects we all have experienced. I have been struggling with the effects of this syndrome for about 7 years until the last few weeks. Previously after ejaculation, within 1/2 hour I would start feeling brain fog, really tired, sore eyes, complete lack of focus/retention of anything new, general sickness, complete lack of sex drive, muscle weakness, and soreness in my joints which increased for about 2 days and then would begin to subside and I would feel normal again after about 6 days. These symptoms began during my undergraduate years and I'm now in my doctorate to become a health care professional. These symptoms have basically ruined my life especially when it come to trying to treat patients on days where I can't even remember how to do basic things I have learned because of the disorder. I recently started drinking olive oil, increased the amount of fat in my diet, and take fenugreek and I noticed that I would feel a LOT better. Then it made me start thinking about why that may be. I know that one thing that I changed around the time I began feeling POIS symptoms 7 years ago was that, I completely eliminate most fats from my diet. I would not eat anything fried or heavy/ etc. After sometime, I realized that when I would eat something fatty, I would get headaches and it would exacerbate my symptoms if I had recently ejaculated. Therefore as a result, I would continue to completely avoid fats/ oily food. So as to propose a mechanism of action for the disorder, I know a lot about physiological science but this explanation to me doesn't make sure sense for now but its what I believe from what I have experienced. I believe that after ejaculation, something is happening with our lipids. Perhaps they are being used as an energy source for the ejaculation and if the lipid levels are too low, our bodies are getting the energy sources from somewhere else that it is not suppose to be. Maybe proteins and as a result your body is breaking down specific proteins for energy that it shouldn't be so our bodies ellicit an antibody mediate response against our own proteins which leads to the symptoms that seem like an autoimmune disease. I find that when I increased the amount of oils/ lipids in my body via eating a higher fat diet, drinking olive oil, and fenugreek my symptoms seem like they are going to come on but then are COMPLETELY GONE WITHIN A FEW HOURS!!! Within the last 2-3 weeks, I haven't felt more than 10% of the original POIS symtoms at any time. I have had sex probably 20 times during that time period because it has been almost a decade since I could enjoy sex and not feel my impending doom afterwards. I never in my life to say this after all the doctors I have seen who didn't know what to tell me. In addition, I have been taking a test booster (Kiazen PM) but I don't know if that has anything to do with the results, I was just taking that for my loss of libido/ low test symptoms from the POIS. Guys, I really hope this is something that will help everyone. If you guys could try this and let me know, that will be great. I am almost in tears while writing this post because POIS has ruined a large period of time in my life that I will never get back. Now, I have been having sex and feeling great for almost 3 weeks now. I will provide an update on how I feel in a couple weeks and let you know if anything has changed. I hope this can be a new beginning for everyone. I'm back after a long and non-POIS related illness. The fat consumption suggestion is a really interesting idea. The connection could be Acetylcholine and Acetyl-CoA. The latter is used in fatty acid synthesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetyl-CoAThe former is a neurotransmitter of the parasympathetic nervous system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AcetylcholineI noticed that I felt most drained not after an O but after a night when I had many erections. These require Acetylcholine to be produced, using up the bodies supply of Acetyl CoA. It's very difficult to talk about symptoms of high and low acetylcholine as it will cycle. i.e. anyone who has looked at it will notice that high and low Acetylcholine have similar symptoms. Examples include concentration issues and eye control problems which may mimic a mild form of myasthenia gravis. (I don't have myasthenia gravis - although the antibodies test appears to not be 100% reliable - but I definitely have POIS related eye muscle control problems). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasthenia_gravisGlucose metabolism also reduces Acetyl-CoA levels in favour of Malonyl-CoA (I think) and many of us report feeling "brain fog" after consuming a lot of sugary drinks. I know I do. Acetyl-CoA depletion may also produce symptoms of hypoglycemia and hunger as the person cannot adequately convert fats into energy. Fat intake may increase the rate of synthesis of Acetyl-CoA and perhaps, as a byproduct of this, permit a faster normalising of the levels of acetylcholine following an erection. Ideally, this would be supported by vitamins B1, vitamin B5 (multivitamins have enough b5 tbh) and possibly additional acetyl-carnitine. Carnitine has been positively evaluated for treatment of Malonyl-CoA decarboxylase deficiencyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malonyl-CoA_decarboxylase_deficiencyAcetyl-carnitine is an acetylcholine receptor agonist. As Herman has pointed out a few times, nicotine mimics acetylcholine at its respective receptors also. I read a theory of acne a few years back that suggested low Acetyl-CoA was a contributing factor as it would increase fats in the sebacious glands. I'm saying "contributing factor" rather than cause and I know that there are POIS sufferers who don't have acne. Anyway, Acetyl-CoA is one more thing to think about.just to let you guys know, i had a fatty acids test done by metametrix, and it showed very low levels of gamma linolenic acid, which is a omega-6 fat, but it actually has anti-inflammatory properties, unlike most other omega-6s which are pro-inflammatory. so if eating fat helps, i think this might be the reason for that. i think it is the anti-inflammatory properties of gamma linolenic acid, which is found in borage oil, evening primrose oil, flax oil, hemp oil, and olive oil. right now i started using evening primrose oil 1000mg 3x a day and fish oil with high EPA/DHA ratio 2:1 or 3:1. i hope this helps. but i heard krill oil is better because it doesnt become oxidesed as easily as fish oil. im not sure.i hope this narrows it down.so if you want to give the specific gamma linolenic acid a try, or fats in general a try, and perhaps add kurtosis recommendation of aceytl-carnitine and b1, b5 as well, maybe we can figure out if this helps or not, and if its the anti-inflammatory properties of the oils or the increase of acetyl-coa that they produce.
Quote from: curedone2013 on 17/06/2013 01:18:59Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I really think I am on to something here. It is very different from what I have believed before regarding my symptoms.I wanted to share my struggle and recent success with fighting POIS. From my experience with it, I believe that POIS is a form of a lipid disorder that leads to the other downstream effects we all have experienced. I have been struggling with the effects of this syndrome for about 7 years until the last few weeks. Previously after ejaculation, within 1/2 hour I would start feeling brain fog, really tired, sore eyes, complete lack of focus/retention of anything new, general sickness, complete lack of sex drive, muscle weakness, and soreness in my joints which increased for about 2 days and then would begin to subside and I would feel normal again after about 6 days. These symptoms began during my undergraduate years and I'm now in my doctorate to become a health care professional. These symptoms have basically ruined my life especially when it come to trying to treat patients on days where I can't even remember how to do basic things I have learned because of the disorder. I recently started drinking olive oil, increased the amount of fat in my diet, and take fenugreek and I noticed that I would feel a LOT better. Then it made me start thinking about why that may be. I know that one thing that I changed around the time I began feeling POIS symptoms 7 years ago was that, I completely eliminate most fats from my diet. I would not eat anything fried or heavy/ etc. After sometime, I realized that when I would eat something fatty, I would get headaches and it would exacerbate my symptoms if I had recently ejaculated. Therefore as a result, I would continue to completely avoid fats/ oily food. So as to propose a mechanism of action for the disorder, I know a lot about physiological science but this explanation to me doesn't make sure sense for now but its what I believe from what I have experienced. I believe that after ejaculation, something is happening with our lipids. Perhaps they are being used as an energy source for the ejaculation and if the lipid levels are too low, our bodies are getting the energy sources from somewhere else that it is not suppose to be. Maybe proteins and as a result your body is breaking down specific proteins for energy that it shouldn't be so our bodies ellicit an antibody mediate response against our own proteins which leads to the symptoms that seem like an autoimmune disease. I find that when I increased the amount of oils/ lipids in my body via eating a higher fat diet, drinking olive oil, and fenugreek my symptoms seem like they are going to come on but then are COMPLETELY GONE WITHIN A FEW HOURS!!! Within the last 2-3 weeks, I haven't felt more than 10% of the original POIS symtoms at any time. I have had sex probably 20 times during that time period because it has been almost a decade since I could enjoy sex and not feel my impending doom afterwards. I never in my life to say this after all the doctors I have seen who didn't know what to tell me. In addition, I have been taking a test booster (Kiazen PM) but I don't know if that has anything to do with the results, I was just taking that for my loss of libido/ low test symptoms from the POIS. Guys, I really hope this is something that will help everyone. If you guys could try this and let me know, that will be great. I am almost in tears while writing this post because POIS has ruined a large period of time in my life that I will never get back. Now, I have been having sex and feeling great for almost 3 weeks now. I will provide an update on how I feel in a couple weeks and let you know if anything has changed. I hope this can be a new beginning for everyone. I'm back after a long and non-POIS related illness. The fat consumption suggestion is a really interesting idea. The connection could be Acetylcholine and Acetyl-CoA. The latter is used in fatty acid synthesis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetyl-CoAThe former is a neurotransmitter of the parasympathetic nervous system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AcetylcholineI noticed that I felt most drained not after an O but after a night when I had many erections. These require Acetylcholine to be produced, using up the bodies supply of Acetyl CoA. It's very difficult to talk about symptoms of high and low acetylcholine as it will cycle. i.e. anyone who has looked at it will notice that high and low Acetylcholine have similar symptoms. Examples include concentration issues and eye control problems which may mimic a mild form of myasthenia gravis. (I don't have myasthenia gravis - although the antibodies test appears to not be 100% reliable - but I definitely have POIS related eye muscle control problems). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasthenia_gravisGlucose metabolism also reduces Acetyl-CoA levels in favour of Malonyl-CoA (I think) and many of us report feeling "brain fog" after consuming a lot of sugary drinks. I know I do. Acetyl-CoA depletion may also produce symptoms of hypoglycemia and hunger as the person cannot adequately convert fats into energy. Fat intake may increase the rate of synthesis of Acetyl-CoA and perhaps, as a byproduct of this, permit a faster normalising of the levels of acetylcholine following an erection. Ideally, this would be supported by vitamins B1, vitamin B5 (multivitamins have enough b5 tbh) and possibly additional acetyl-carnitine. Carnitine has been positively evaluated for treatment of Malonyl-CoA decarboxylase deficiencyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malonyl-CoA_decarboxylase_deficiencyAcetyl-carnitine is an acetylcholine receptor agonist. As Herman has pointed out a few times, nicotine mimics acetylcholine at its respective receptors also. I read a theory of acne a few years back that suggested low Acetyl-CoA was a contributing factor as it would increase fats in the sebacious glands. I'm saying "contributing factor" rather than cause and I know that there are POIS sufferers who don't have acne. Anyway, Acetyl-CoA is one more thing to think about.
Hi guys, I am new to this forum. I really think I am on to something here. It is very different from what I have believed before regarding my symptoms.I wanted to share my struggle and recent success with fighting POIS. From my experience with it, I believe that POIS is a form of a lipid disorder that leads to the other downstream effects we all have experienced. I have been struggling with the effects of this syndrome for about 7 years until the last few weeks. Previously after ejaculation, within 1/2 hour I would start feeling brain fog, really tired, sore eyes, complete lack of focus/retention of anything new, general sickness, complete lack of sex drive, muscle weakness, and soreness in my joints which increased for about 2 days and then would begin to subside and I would feel normal again after about 6 days. These symptoms began during my undergraduate years and I'm now in my doctorate to become a health care professional. These symptoms have basically ruined my life especially when it come to trying to treat patients on days where I can't even remember how to do basic things I have learned because of the disorder. I recently started drinking olive oil, increased the amount of fat in my diet, and take fenugreek and I noticed that I would feel a LOT better. Then it made me start thinking about why that may be. I know that one thing that I changed around the time I began feeling POIS symptoms 7 years ago was that, I completely eliminate most fats from my diet. I would not eat anything fried or heavy/ etc. After sometime, I realized that when I would eat something fatty, I would get headaches and it would exacerbate my symptoms if I had recently ejaculated. Therefore as a result, I would continue to completely avoid fats/ oily food. So as to propose a mechanism of action for the disorder, I know a lot about physiological science but this explanation to me doesn't make sure sense for now but its what I believe from what I have experienced. I believe that after ejaculation, something is happening with our lipids. Perhaps they are being used as an energy source for the ejaculation and if the lipid levels are too low, our bodies are getting the energy sources from somewhere else that it is not suppose to be. Maybe proteins and as a result your body is breaking down specific proteins for energy that it shouldn't be so our bodies ellicit an antibody mediate response against our own proteins which leads to the symptoms that seem like an autoimmune disease. I find that when I increased the amount of oils/ lipids in my body via eating a higher fat diet, drinking olive oil, and fenugreek my symptoms seem like they are going to come on but then are COMPLETELY GONE WITHIN A FEW HOURS!!! Within the last 2-3 weeks, I haven't felt more than 10% of the original POIS symtoms at any time. I have had sex probably 20 times during that time period because it has been almost a decade since I could enjoy sex and not feel my impending doom afterwards. I never in my life to say this after all the doctors I have seen who didn't know what to tell me. In addition, I have been taking a test booster (Kiazen PM) but I don't know if that has anything to do with the results, I was just taking that for my loss of libido/ low test symptoms from the POIS. Guys, I really hope this is something that will help everyone. If you guys could try this and let me know, that will be great. I am almost in tears while writing this post because POIS has ruined a large period of time in my life that I will never get back. Now, I have been having sex and feeling great for almost 3 weeks now. I will provide an update on how I feel in a couple weeks and let you know if anything has changed. I hope this can be a new beginning for everyone.
Quote from: Over it on 17/10/2013 12:03:09Quote from: POISmonk on 16/10/2013 19:01:10Keep your Vitamin C high, your carbs low, keep in good spirits, laugh often, stay away from situations that make you angry, get enough quality sleep, walk about a mile a day minimum, breathe completely and fully. Best of luck to my POIS brothers.How does keeping in good spirits, laughing (often), avoiding things that make you angry, walking one mile (min), & breathing completely and fully, help your immune system kill a virus?I couldn't even be bothered thoroughly researching this so called CMV virus. But maybe you can tell me; if it is similar and common like the herpes virus, shouldnt a large majority of people have it, & consequently, have POIS? I did read that the symptoms are typically gone between a 10 days to 3 months. There are cases of POIS that have effected people for over 30 yrs. Unless they had a compromised immune system, how can this be? Also, because it is a virus, shouldn't there be a heightened & measurable immune response that can confirm its presence?A CMV IgG blood test would indicate the number of CMV antibodies circulating in your system. I have high levels of this IgG, and always had doctors brushing me off when I asked them about any possible connection between this and POIS symptoms. Does anyone else in this forum have high CMV IgG levels?POISMonk should tell us why he strongly believes this CMV as a cause. I would not be surprised if he is a scientific researcher and has had some insight into POIS.
Quote from: POISmonk on 16/10/2013 19:01:10Keep your Vitamin C high, your carbs low, keep in good spirits, laugh often, stay away from situations that make you angry, get enough quality sleep, walk about a mile a day minimum, breathe completely and fully. Best of luck to my POIS brothers.How does keeping in good spirits, laughing (often), avoiding things that make you angry, walking one mile (min), & breathing completely and fully, help your immune system kill a virus?I couldn't even be bothered thoroughly researching this so called CMV virus. But maybe you can tell me; if it is similar and common like the herpes virus, shouldnt a large majority of people have it, & consequently, have POIS? I did read that the symptoms are typically gone between a 10 days to 3 months. There are cases of POIS that have effected people for over 30 yrs. Unless they had a compromised immune system, how can this be? Also, because it is a virus, shouldn't there be a heightened & measurable immune response that can confirm its presence?
Keep your Vitamin C high, your carbs low, keep in good spirits, laugh often, stay away from situations that make you angry, get enough quality sleep, walk about a mile a day minimum, breathe completely and fully. Best of luck to my POIS brothers.
Hello again, SIBO is never cured by antibiotics. It comes back 99.99% of the time as you can see this by millions of people on SIBO forums.. Improvement lasts from 3-6 months at most. If body chemistry is not changed and enzymes activation and protein synthesis is not built up, namely bioavailable copper as in ceruloplasmin alkalinity is never achieved in the small intestines and friendly bacteria and candida overgrows there. Just cleaning it out is one step of the problem. Mucus build up causes acidity to prevail in the small intestine thus the goal is to eliminate all mucus forming substances like milk and dissolve mucus using okra pepsin.Fats and oils are good, but should be used according to your metabolism, if someone has a slow thyroid and that someone increases fats and oils., that someone will crashLiver flushes achieve pretty much as good of a job as antibiotics for small intestines , only without harming large intestine.( this is what NATHAN did) Bile is very alkaline and when it goes down small intestines it makes it more alkaline. If there is too much mucus, nothing will help and antibiotics will fail also, since mucus is very acidic and SIBO will come back very very fast. The main problem for SIBO is lack of HCL and lack of pancreatic enzymes. If that is increased the probability of keeping friendly flora in check goes up, since pancreas react to HCL secretion by secreting bicarbonate .There is a good product called bicarb- balance by alkalife which is enteric coated bicarbonate and enteric coated peppermint oil .Could be used for some body with SIBO problems.AS for POIS, I posted a complete explanation on the russian forum about POIS , its roots and means to fight it.I dont have much time or desire to post much here but I will outline what is posted there. Here is the outline of what happens with POIS CFS VVD etc.1) Stress , alcohol ,overmasturbation , heavy metals toxicities, minerals deficiencies cause systemic protein deficiencies and pancreatic insufficiency. This leads to low levels of all amino acids since dietary protein is not being able to be broken down in your small intestine and stomach due to low levels of HCL and pancreatic enzymes.2) low amino acids lead to low systemic protein and also low HCL, so this is vicous cycle. 3) Metalothionein and gluthatione obviously go down since amino acids are down, you become toxic in metals and viruses and toxins.4) low gluthatione increases inflammation which effects tryptophan break down by IDO enzyme.Niacin and nicotinamide decrease IDO activivy that is why it works for POIS.Solutions for POIS;1) HCL for the stomach 2) enzymes wth every food, including trypsin chymotrypsin to break down proteins. ( wobenzym , BIO ZYME)3) ESSENTIAL AMINO ACIDS in free form, patches or predigested ( Platinum essential amino acids, amino acids patches from age force) this way you restore amino acids and your systemic protein can be made ( ceruloplasmin , ferritin , gluthatione , metalothionien etc)4) increase cofactors for gluthatione and metalothionein( glutamine, cysteine, selenium , zinc histidine tryptophan glycine) so your body can detoxify heavy metals and toxins.5) DO hair analisys and get on nutritional balancing to fix your own enzyme system and see which cofactors you are missing like manganese or zinc or copper. If you dont do this, you can take a multivitamin SOLGAR 2000 to support present protein synthesys but the mnute you go off amino acids, you will crash, since your own protein synthesys wont be there, since you did not deal with body chemisty you just bypassed enzymes.6) increase Selenium intake 7) Fish oils or lecitin and peppermint oil in enteric capsules carnosine 500 mg a day , for heavy metal detox and mast cell stabilization while detoxing. Plus it will increase histidine stores in the body.9) tryptophan at night 500mg10) Okra pepsin to dissolve mucus in your small intestine. You can flush it out with psyllium husk or oxy powder.DIET1)EGG whites 16 a day preferably raw,( make sure you heat them up to deactivate avidin) completely supports gluthatione. If you have histamine reaction to this, add 100mcg molybdenum. But if you are taking carnosine you wont have any food reactions even if you had them before2)bananas as many as you can eat, increases tryptofan .3) Brazil nuts 3 a dayStay away from meat.No milk or sugarsDETOX PROCEDUREScoffee enemas dailyliver flush every 2 weeks.POIS symptoms are caused by degradation of tryptophan by IDO and copper zinc balance is crucial in this enzyme.Tryptophan degradation is increased in viral infections during stress , cancer, inflammation. STOP LOOKING FOR VIRUSES and all kind of separate deseases. It wont help...LYME HERPES CANCER all cause gluthatione to be mobilized, and you have to support gluthatione and feed oils to fight the virus. S EX uses up selenium and zinc , which are part of gluthatione synthesis, this is why you crash..You are infected and you are working overtime to detox, but you by having sex are taking away mainly selenium and zinc from detoxification.Acetylcholine problems are related to managnese deficiency and as Kurtosis mentioned lipid metabolism problems.But all of this will go away, if you restore your protein metabolism and thus restore your pacnreatic enzymes. All this SIBO cures, panchakrama VVD treatments, they dont deal with the cause of all of this... And it will all go away as soon as you get aminos in and balance body chemistry. NEVER take antibiotics.For instance sibo goes away on carnosine zinc really fast. Histamine intolerance goes down on histdine POIS CFS and VVD risk groups;1) Ebstein bar , herpes Lуme CMV people, since that mobilized gluthatione and all its precursors leading to induction of IDO. It is impossible to kill these viruses without changing body chemistry. DONT EVEN TRY--- it is waste of your time.2) Bodybuilders ------ they have low levels of amino acids, or taking wrong amino acid complexes with limiting amino acids.3) Marijuanna smokers-------cadmium in marijuana antagonizes selenium and zinc like crazy . Gluthatione goes way down , which induces IDO4) Overmasturbation leading to low zinc and especially selenium levels, and also high histamine use on arousal, which lead to histidine deficiency, and histidine zinc and B6 make HCL, no HCL no bicarbonate, and no enzyme activation in the small intestines leads to low levels of amino acids which leads to inflammation and IDO induction5) people taking supplements , multivitamins ---- without amino acids , there are no carrying systemic proteins in body and all you do with your supplements is make yourself even more toxic in free unbound metals, which will mobilze gluthatione and metallothionein again and will cause POIS.Good luck , I hope it helpsHerman
I didn"t made bloodtest for VitD for now. I'm convinced there is a link between insulin and testosterone/sperm and probably vitaminD or fats metabolsim.I tested many times different digestive enzymes (pancreatin, vegetal, pineaples bromelain and others...) the improvement on my Pois is ZERO %.