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What would be the motivation for trying to create such a hoax? There was none.
It still comes back to the fact that NASA would be totally and utterly discredited if, on a subsequent mission to the moon by some other nation, no evidence could be found of the original moon landings.
If this "Cold War Prestige - The U.S. government considered it vital that the U.S. win the space race with the USSR." was a reason for faking the moon landings then tyou can't say that te Russians were in on the fakery. If they weren't then how come they didn't spot that the signals were not sent from the moon?
People say the Soviets would have snitched. There are explanations for that too:http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker+cold+war&aq=f http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html(excerpt)---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm(excerpt)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have you read Noam Chomsky's analysis of the cold war? http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr2304.htm(excerpt)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I can measure the radiation exposure at the earth's surface at sea level and at the top of a mountain and extrapolate the dose in space.
We know that we can survive the radiation provided that we are behind a sheild that's equivalent to the earth's atmosphere.
Face it, there's no real evidence that the moon landings were faked.
It still comes back to the fact that NASA would be totally and utterly discredited if, on a subsequent mission to the moon by some other nation, no evidence could be found of the original moon landings.Until you can absolutely prove that these landings were faked, it must be taken that they were not.
It could be both, they did go to the moon but they Faked the moon landing video etc to hide information from Russia.
At about 1 min 15 you can see that they are tied down so it's no wonder they act as they do- it's not gravity it's a tremendously complicated piece of technology- a bit of wire.
So, in your opinion, are the examples of fakery that I posted really fakery?
Not in my opinion. Every one of the hoax claims in the links you provided has been debunked.
There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUEhttp://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rmWhat I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved thier methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 55 second mark.http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-7335269088210976286It looks just like movement in earth gravity.--------------------------------When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUEHere it is doubled.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-EWhen the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations) combined with wire supports in the later missions.
Cosmored,all your questions (and I mean ALL your questions) are answered in this extensive website:http://www.clavius.org/index.html
it's not clear what you mean by "dogtags".
Cosmored, the moonlandings were real and reality. No doubt about that.You say they were faked? Faked six times?! Think of the best special effects movies that you have ever seen. Now think of the inconsistensies or visual errors that even the casual uninformed audience can see in these films. Now think back to the sixties and the movies that were made then. Could NASA have produced such a fakery that it would not only stand up to the scrutiny of a 1969 audience, but also a whole generation of engineers and scientists familiar with the geologic studies of celestial bodies?Cosmored, most people are smart enough to believe reputable engineers, geochemists, physicists, geologists, astronomers and astronauts from across the globe who, based on actual empirical evidence, state that the landings were a fact. Some people however believe some anonymous high-school dropouts who found everything they needed to conclude the moonlandings were a hoax from a few YouTube videos.The Apollo missions were tracked by the Madrid Apollo Station, the Goldstone Tracking Station, the Jodrell Bank Observatory, the Chabot Observatory, the Corralitos Observatory, the Jewett Observatory, the Honeysuckle Creek station and the Bochum Sternwache. You say that all the hundreds of engineers and scientists at those stations were fools? The point about conspiracy theories is, that’s all they are, theories. Anyone can start one and there are always some guys who will believe it. And if there is any aspect of the theory that does not fit, then ignore it. Considering there was a space race with the USSR going on at the time do you not you think the Soviets would found out about the hoax through their intelligence networks? And think of the amount of people who would have to be involved to set up this hoax and keep it secret, how would you be able to keep all those people quiet for all these years?As GoneToPlaid wrote today, every one (EVERY ONE) of the hoax claims have been debunked so many times. Some very easily, some with the use of people specialized in photography, physics, engineering and so on.
QuoteIt could be both, they did go to the moon but they Faked the moon landing video etc to hide information from Russia.So, in your opinion, are the examples of fakery that I posted really fakery?