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Time can dilate. This means that the passage of time in one frame of reference can be at a different rate than that in another frame of reference. In which case we can say that the rate of time changes. This has nothing to do with speed which is a function of distance over time. Rates of change and speed are entirely separate. You can have a rate of change of speed which is acceleration. This can be both positive and negative. Unless these simple definitions are grasped you may as well be talking Klingon.
So it seems that this question is not about Einstein's relativity, but it's all about the speed of the Terminator: the day/night dividing line (not the time-traveling cyborg).
Not only does he confuse speed of terminator, speed of time and speed of light, he uses the frequency of the cesium clock without understanding that this is a microwave frequency and so travels at the speed of light - hence the calculation he offers is false.
My calculation is falsifiable.
Quote from: Thebox My calculation is falsifiable.No argument there; in fact if you re-read this thread you might find it has been falsified. []
The fact that humanity's earliest measurements of time relied on the motion of stars moons and planets has no bearing on the fundamental nature of time itself.
Utter drivel.You have "equated" reciprocal time (Hz) to time (s) and speed (m/s) which is illogical bunkum, then divided one arbitrary number by another to prove nothing at all.But I like your method. If I drive at 70 mph (31 m/s) and listen to Test Match Special (198 kHz) I can calculate scoring rate as 198/31 = 6.39 runs per over, which is the expected value for the middle order on the Sharja wicket, and is actually falsifiable.
TheBox,I do not usually excoriate members publicly, but unfortunately, you appear to have much too much confidence in your mathematical prowess, and I have had enough.It comes down to this:1) Either you are correct about time equaling motion, and you have single-handedly redefined probability/statistics, and you have discovered the true nature of space, and solved the problem of dark energy. But for some reason, the rest of the world (including alancalverd and me, who have substantial disagreements about many things) have ganged up and conspired against you.2) Or, you are posting gibberish about all sorts of topics (as has been claimed by most of the members on this forum, and as far as I can tell, every other forum you have posted your musings on), and simply do not have enough knowledge of basic logic, math, or physics to understand just how far you are from the truth. Seriously, most of your arguments could be debunked by any 14-year old who has paid attention during half of the maths lectures in school... 3) Or, you are just a troll who knows that this is all nonsense, and just want to see how much aggravation can be heaped on a forum before it bans you.So which is it: 1, 2 or 3?
Quote from: Bill S on 03/11/2015 13:38:13Quote from: Thebox My calculation is falsifiable.No argument there; in fact if you re-read this thread you might find it has been falsified. []My maths is verifiable and confirmable I thing I got that backwards.
Quote from: chiralSPO on 03/11/2015 14:39:20TheBox,I do not usually excoriate members publicly, but unfortunately, you appear to have much too much confidence in your mathematical prowess, and I have had enough.It comes down to this:1) Either you are correct about time equaling motion, and you have single-handedly redefined probability/statistics, and you have discovered the true nature of space, and solved the problem of dark energy. But for some reason, the rest of the world (including alancalverd and me, who have substantial disagreements about many things) have ganged up and conspired against you.2) Or, you are posting gibberish about all sorts of topics (as has been claimed by most of the members on this forum, and as far as I can tell, every other forum you have posted your musings on), and simply do not have enough knowledge of basic logic, math, or physics to understand just how far you are from the truth. Seriously, most of your arguments could be debunked by any 14-year old who has paid attention during half of the maths lectures in school... 3) Or, you are just a troll who knows that this is all nonsense, and just want to see how much aggravation can be heaped on a forum before it bans you.So which is it: 1, 2 or 3?4) or members and moderators are failing to understand the content, reading it ''wrongly'' , by maybe my lack of some knowledge and poor explanation, but is totally correct. arbitrary time equalling motion,I am correct, consider not everyone could understand Tesla either and Maxwell took years to do Faraday's maths. The maths I provided in this thread is based on Google measurements. Are these wrong is the earth's circumference not roughly 24,901 miles? is there not 24 hrs in one day roughly? Does the Earth not rotate at 1035 mph roughly? Did the denotion of arbitrary time come any other way than based on the earth's spin relative to motion of the Sun etc? Can you even measure time without measuring the movement of something? Can you deny the second constant of clarity of light in space to all visual observers? I do not make things up so you know, it is all your science. And there is no physical way to sprinkle 1001's mixed colours into individual straight lines. I could show all this with a chalk board and some peers, I am not demented it is what science told me.
My maths is verifiable and confirmable I thing I got that backwards.
Quote from: Thebox on 03/11/2015 14:56:45Quote from: chiralSPO on 03/11/2015 14:39:20TheBox,I do not usually excoriate members publicly, but unfortunately, you appear to have much too much confidence in your mathematical prowess, and I have had enough.It comes down to this:1) Either you are correct about time equaling motion, and you have single-handedly redefined probability/statistics, and you have discovered the true nature of space, and solved the problem of dark energy. But for some reason, the rest of the world (including alancalverd and me, who have substantial disagreements about many things) have ganged up and conspired against you.2) Or, you are posting gibberish about all sorts of topics (as has been claimed by most of the members on this forum, and as far as I can tell, every other forum you have posted your musings on), and simply do not have enough knowledge of basic logic, math, or physics to understand just how far you are from the truth. Seriously, most of your arguments could be debunked by any 14-year old who has paid attention during half of the maths lectures in school... 3) Or, you are just a troll who knows that this is all nonsense, and just want to see how much aggravation can be heaped on a forum before it bans you.So which is it: 1, 2 or 3?4) or members and moderators are failing to understand the content, reading it ''wrongly'' , by maybe my lack of some knowledge and poor explanation, but is totally correct. arbitrary time equalling motion,I am correct, consider not everyone could understand Tesla either and Maxwell took years to do Faraday's maths. The maths I provided in this thread is based on Google measurements. Are these wrong is the earth's circumference not roughly 24,901 miles? is there not 24 hrs in one day roughly? Does the Earth not rotate at 1035 mph roughly? Did the denotion of arbitrary time come any other way than based on the earth's spin relative to motion of the Sun etc? Can you even measure time without measuring the movement of something? Can you deny the second constant of clarity of light in space to all visual observers? I do not make things up so you know, it is all your science. And there is no physical way to sprinkle 1001's mixed colours into individual straight lines. I could show all this with a chalk board and some peers, I am not demented it is what science told me. ......so number 2, then?
......so number 2, then?
I would at my own expense within reasonable distance travel and discuss anything I ever wrote in person with a chalk board, a light on a dimmer switch with a darkened room. I could show you all this gibberish in minutes. I dont even want the credit for it I just want you to get it right.