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magine you where a fit cancer patient
Imagine you where a fit cancer patient in April 2020, who had incurable cancer. They receive a letter telling them to isolate as they are vulnerable and are not allowed to go out and enjoy themselves.
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 23/01/2021 09:46:59magine you where a fit cancer patient Let's start with a simpler exercise. Imagine a four-sided triangle.
Is it hitler again
So another interesting question is why the news articles are not full of questions about Boris killing thousands by being incompetent.
An independent think-tank (the Lowy Institute) tried to rank the COVID response of various countries....Comparing the ranking of Nordic countries:Iceland 7Finland 17Norway 18Denmark 23Sweden 37Comparing the primarily English-speaking countries:New Zealand 1Australia 8Canada 61UK 66 USA 94An interesting comment from one of the investigators:- It seems that countries with populations < 10 million seemed to do better, perhaps because they could pivot more flexibly.- One reason Australia performed so well is because health is handled on a state-by-state basis, so each state acted like an independent country with border controls; each state has a population < 10 million- Megacities with population > 10 million are hotspots. I guess that's why the mayor of New York had to act on his own. Play with the statistics here:https://interactives.lowyinstitute.org/features/covid-performance/
Quote from: evan_au on 28/01/2021 10:40:32An independent think-tank (the Lowy Institute) tried to rank the COVID response of various countries....Comparing the ranking of Nordic countries:Iceland 7Finland 17Norway 18Denmark 23Sweden 37Comparing the primarily English-speaking countries:New Zealand 1Australia 8Canada 61UK 66 USA 94An interesting comment from one of the investigators:- It seems that countries with populations < 10 million seemed to do better, perhaps because they could pivot more flexibly.- One reason Australia performed so well is because health is handled on a state-by-state basis, so each state acted like an independent country with border controls; each state has a population < 10 million- Megacities with population > 10 million are hotspots. I guess that's why the mayor of New York had to act on his own. Play with the statistics here:https://interactives.lowyinstitute.org/features/covid-performance/ For the happiest places on earth the nordic countries have a suicide problem. Better these days but if lockdowns rock the boat it could lead to an upswing again. At 1000 extra suicides a year in Finland in 1990 could really mount up, considering that would scale to 12000 suicides in Britain per year.As a balance I will say that I do not know of other deaths related to depression, drug alcohol bad health, but if the swedes are saved from mental illness by being relaxed, you have to reconsider.
The data you quote ceases in 2018, so has nothing to do with COVID quarantine.And remember that suicide is a solution, not a problem.
There is a considerable difference between advising people who are immunocompromised (or suffering from cardiac or respiratory disease) to strenuously avoid contact with potential sources of COVID infection, and imposing a statutory curfew on practically everyone to prevent the general spread of the disease.Given the infectivity of COVID, and the general expectation that anyone seriously affected will be treated in a hospital, it could be considered antisocial for a person who knows he is particularly susceptible to expose himself to infection, because in so doing he is placing a burden on the health service and putting his carers at elevated risk. This is an order of magnitude more antisocial than skiing or overdosing on heroin because the treatment for a broken leg or overdose does not put NHS staff in danger.
it speaks that herd immunity must work.