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...but what a coincidence that light appears to follow the motion of bodies while it has no mass!
I was talking about the intensity of light, not its frequency. But you seem to mean that doppler effect would also take care of the intensity, so I'll try to figure out how.
The law of conservation of momentum is not a mechanism,
and the way waves travel in a medium is, so if a wall is approaching the light source and the other is fleeing away, the approaching wall should still receive more light. Do you have a mechanism to provide or just a law?
If I understand well, the internal mechanism that produces photons would be influenced by the motion of atoms through aether, and the mechanism that produces water waves would not. Is that it?
I already understand what you are on about in intricate detail, I might not know the calculations but it is not as if I can't do them as proved in your first assignment. However as the first assignment the second assignment is a rather ''pointless'' exercise...the biggest flaw being that light doe's not behave this way, especially in the zig zag scenario, quite provable by experiment.
Are you objective enough to realise why Einstein was wrong?
What's pointless about it? It predicts that a moving light clock aligned perpendicular to its direction of travel should behave in a way that fits with the results of experiments with it's ticking rate reduced to the right degree. (Your position on this was that such a moving clock would tick at the same rate as a stationary one, and that doesn't fit with the results of experiment.)
Quite to the contrary, I predicted the clocks would ''tick'' at the same rates and they do as shown over several diagrams I have provided.
It is your understanding that is a failure.
I understand your error and have already explained it once in which you ignored.
I will continue with your misunderstanding and do the calculation when you have objectively understood this error.
The clock at rest measures 1.s whilst the light clock in motion as not yet measured 1.s. When the light clock in motion measures 1 second, the clock at relative rest measures 1.3s.
]How much time as passed by?t1(c)=1.3s d=399723277.333mt2(c)=1.3s d=399723277.333mShowing how wrong you are.[attachment id=0 msg=515314]1.s=1.3s using your broken measurement system
Quote from: Thebox on 27/05/2017 21:56:10Quite to the contrary, I predicted the clocks would ''tick'' at the same rates and they do as shown over several diagrams I have provided.Let me remind you. We have three tick rates. The stationary clock ticks once every 2 seconds. The moving clock from assignment 1 ticks once for every 2 2/3 seconds of the stationary clock. The moving clock from assignment 2 ticks once for every 2.3094 seconds of the stationary clock.If you want to, you can built a clock to half the length so that it ticks once per second when stationary, and once every 1.1547 seconds when moving at 0.5c (or once every 1 1/3 seconds if uncontracted and aligned with the direction of travel rather that perpendicular to it), so those are the correct figures.QuoteIt is your understanding that is a failure.What? My understanding fails because it fits the facts while yours doesn't?QuoteI understand your error and have already explained it once in which you ignored.You don't appear to understand anything, even after you've been dragged through the whole thing.QuoteI will continue with your misunderstanding and do the calculation when you have objectively understood this error.It won't do you any good if I move away from reason to believe something that doesn't fit the facts just so that I can be as wrong as you. You're the one that needs to shift.QuoteThe clock at rest measures 1.s whilst the light clock in motion as not yet measured 1.s. When the light clock in motion measures 1 second, the clock at relative rest measures 1.3s.Where do you get this 1.3 from? It should either be 1.1547 (the figure experiments give us) or 1 1/3 (which nature never gives us because of length-contraction).
The pigeon is defecating on the chess board again and thinks it's won.
Let us play a game, in the below diagram is a 0 which will vanish if the game is not worked out. The game rules are simple , in 15 minutes of reading this post you lose if you have not worked out the game and froze time. In the below diagram you will observe a 0, once you have observed the 0 the timer activates and you are playing the game. You now have 15 minutes to work out how to move the 0 without creating a past geometrical position, you can try to move the 0 at any speed you like. However if you decide to do nothing, the 0 timer still ticks away creating a new chronological position in time at any speed you would like to define. I assure you there is an answer to this, I wonder how many of you will admit it took you more than 15 minutes. (clue). 01.jpg (3.94 kB . 421x458 - viewed 4362 times)
The contraction is the amount of space not traveled by the photon. Your still in the rabbit hole believing the contraction is physical.
Quote from: Thebox on 27/05/2017 23:55:53Let us play a game, in the below diagram is a 0 which will vanish if the game is not worked out. The game rules are simple , in 15 minutes of reading this post you lose if you have not worked out the game and froze time. In the below diagram you will observe a 0, once you have observed the 0 the timer activates and you are playing the game. You now have 15 minutes to work out how to move the 0 without creating a past geometrical position, you can try to move the 0 at any speed you like. However if you decide to do nothing, the 0 timer still ticks away creating a new chronological position in time at any speed you would like to define. I assure you there is an answer to this, I wonder how many of you will admit it took you more than 15 minutes. (clue). 01.jpg (3.94 kB . 421x458 - viewed 4362 times)50+ views and no answer , it is not that difficult surely?
I can't see any great role for light in what's going on (other than that all matter is arguably made up of light because that's essentially what it decays into)
How much time as passed by?t1(c)=1.3s d=399723277.333mt2(c)=1.3s d=399723277.333mShowing how wrong you are.1.s=1.3s using your broken measurement system
1.3 is an example, we do not have to use exact to show an example. But if you like I will use you time to show you again why you are wrong.
While 1.1547s has passed on the Earth clock only 1 second has passed on the dilated clock, however 1.1547s has passed by. The light in either clock has travelled 1.1547s worth of light distance.
added- To put it simple for you, ''you'' are measuring the time by using light but measuring the light in the incorrect geometrical point giving you a false result.[attachment id=0 msg=515324]
As yet you have offered nothing of a contraction or dilation, like I said earlier , all you are saying is light takes more time to travel more distance.
Yes you have to add contraction maths to retain synchronisation,
however that's all it means and is nothing more than a mathematical correction to retain synchronous timing.
50+ views and no answer , it is not that difficult surely?
Do you understand where the contraction comes from in this case? The clock mirrors move through space 1/3 of the mirrors distance without the photon to reflect.
Now since you are doing the two way you have to say only 0.1547 of the distance was without the photon.
This is a visual contraction and a relative to space energy c for distance. The contraction is the amount of space not traveled by the photon. Your still in the rabbit hole believing the contraction is physical.
The angle for light in the perpendicular position is 30 degrees from the direction of travel to meet the perpendicular clock. Light reaches the perpendicular clock in 1.1547 vs. 1 at relative rest. This is just basic 7th grade geometry using the Pythagoras theorem. We are measuring relative tick rates and do not require a physical contraction of length.
The sideways view created by vector velocity is also the contracted view. At half the speed of light the perpendicular view is from behind by 30 degrees which is a reduction of 13 4% of the actual size.
QuoteI was talking about the intensity of light, not its frequency. But you seem to mean that doppler effect would also take care of the intensity, so I'll try to figure out how.With light, the frequency is the intensity (unless you change the number of photons involved).
QuoteThe law of conservation of momentum is not a mechanism,Maybe so, but whatever the mechanism is, it must fit with the conservation of momentum. If you are on a moving boat and you punch the water beside it (downwards), what will be the shape of the wave produced? How much energy will be put into the forward-moving part of the wave and how much into the part moving astern? The mechanism for producing light waves will likely be similar to that (though there's a complication when we think of the wave as a collection of photons).
Quoteand the way waves travel in a medium is, so if a wall is approaching the light source and the other is fleeing away, the approaching wall should still receive more light. Do you have a mechanism to provide or just a law?What I just described with punching water shows why more of the light will be thrown forwards and less backwards. (The analogy is not perfect though if you're in a boat that's moving faster than the speed of the waves produced by the punch, and waves on water also move at different speeds depending on their size.)
Quote from: Thebox on 28/05/2017 13:51:4650+ views and no answer , it is not that difficult surely?97 views by the time I got to it, which is weird - all your images rack up lots of views quickly and often have dozens of views on them when they're newly posted. I assume that means you've posted them somewhere where lots of other people happen upon them, and it's sad to think how many man hours have been lost in this way when it's all added up.I have no idea what your game is supposed to be about and no intention of wasting any time on it. The most obvious solution to the puzzle would be to block you as that would eliminate the entire past, present and future of the zero, the game, and the pigeon.
It is not me being awkward or wrong, it is you being ignorant and arrogant.