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Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 16:19:27Quote from: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 26/06/2021 04:17:38Even if the Tunguska event was 200x, let alone 2,000x more powerful than the bombs my country dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, how did it not wipe out life on Earth, and how come only a few people noticed the event actually happen? I know it was in the desolate Siberian wilderness, populated by some farmers and Tsarists political prisoners, but still...The Tunguska explosion is estimated to be 33 times the blast at Hiroshima or 500 kilotons.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event#:~:text=The%20exploding%20meteoroid%20was%20determined,release%20of%20approximately%20500%20kilotons.It's also estimated as up to 30 MTons"The 30 Mt (130 PJ) estimated upper limit blast power of the Tunguska event could power the same average home for more than 3,100,000 years."fromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalentBut the detail doesn't matter.Most of Hiroshima survived the blast.Almost all the damage was confined to sticky out bits that people had put there.The flat bits were generally fine.That wiki page lists plenty of earthquakes etc that were much bigger than a thousand times the upper bound to the estimated energy from Tunguska.A notable example is an hour's worth of sunshine: 104000 megatons.
Quote from: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 26/06/2021 04:17:38Even if the Tunguska event was 200x, let alone 2,000x more powerful than the bombs my country dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, how did it not wipe out life on Earth, and how come only a few people noticed the event actually happen? I know it was in the desolate Siberian wilderness, populated by some farmers and Tsarists political prisoners, but still...The Tunguska explosion is estimated to be 33 times the blast at Hiroshima or 500 kilotons.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event#:~:text=The%20exploding%20meteoroid%20was%20determined,release%20of%20approximately%20500%20kilotons.
Even if the Tunguska event was 200x, let alone 2,000x more powerful than the bombs my country dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, how did it not wipe out life on Earth, and how come only a few people noticed the event actually happen? I know it was in the desolate Siberian wilderness, populated by some farmers and Tsarists political prisoners, but still...
So for all we know this might have been a warp core explosion
All impacts create a crater whether it is an inch or thousand miles across
Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 18:01:09So for all we know this might have been a warp core explosionThat would have left radioactive debris.Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 18:01:09All impacts create a crater whether it is an inch or thousand miles acrossNobody said otherwise.
Wrong son as there is just no telling what would power an alien ship.
no evidence of an impact happening.
Again you fallibly link everything that could be to what we have now
Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 20:34:16Wrong son as there is just no telling what would power an alien ship. But a "warp core explosion" is a feature of a documented sci fi series- Star Trek It does not have any other meaning.It's not alien.We do know what it does.The fact that it's imaginary leads to questions about you raising the idea; but my point is still correct.Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 20:34:16no evidence of an impact happening. Apart from all the trees blown outwards.Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 20:34:16Again you fallibly link everything that could be to what we have nowYou should try to shake that hallucination; it's not helping you.
there was never any evidence of an impact crater at Tunguska
Apart from all the trees blown outwards.
You should stop referencing RAID hard drives as modern
Warp core is fiction
as such can be anything
dilithium is not really nuclear son
All impacts leave an impact crater
No son we do not know what a warp core explosion does.
a thunderous explosion that literally knocked them off their feet
So, you still don't understand that the air impacted upon the trees.The rest of your post wasn't any better.Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 21:32:07No son we do not know what a warp core explosion does. But mum, I keep telling you; we do.The only meaning that has is in this sci fi show.And we have a video of a warp core explosion.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNW1OmDA2pYAnd we know that it's a matter/ antimatter reaction.And we know that the annihilation of matter gives rise to radioactive debris.
Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 21:32:07a thunderous explosion that literally knocked them off their feetDid that impact leave a crater in them, or were you wrong about this?Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 21:00:09All impacts leave an impact crater
there is no warp core.
this might have been a warp core explosion
No crater was ever discovered.
(atmospheric) friction would just burn up the object on the way down not burst it, unless there was a fuel source of course.
Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 22:04:35 there is no warp core. Quote from: Europa on 21/07/2021 18:01:09this might have been a warp core explosionAgain...Choose one.
Quote from: Europa(atmospheric) friction would just burn up the object on the way down not burst it, unless there was a fuel source of course.The Chelyabinsk meteorite is the second most damaging explosion after Tunguska - only this time there are many images from dashcams and security cameras. It definitely exploded, around 12-15 miles high, and several pieces have been found, none of which looked like pieces from the Enterprise (either the interstellar or the maritime version). No fuel source has been identified.//www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_MfWQ36Zl0
Actually both are plausible because we do not know what the aliens are using for power.
I hope that you can rectify what is real vs fiction.
I find it literally comical that the CIA does not know what happened at Tunguska but that you do.
ten minutes before they were knocked over. 10 minutes is an eternity as typically there is a streak and flash of mere seconds like the video above
Quote from: Europa ten minutes before they were knocked over. 10 minutes is an eternity as typically there is a streak and flash of mere seconds like the video aboveIn Chelyabinsk, people reported a delay of about 5 minutes between the explosion and the windows getting blown in.You can work it out: If the altitude was 20miles/30km, and it was low on the horizon, so it may have been 80km horizontally. so a total of 85km- The speed of sound in air (at sea level) is 300m/s, or 3s/km.- That implies a delay of around 250 seconds, or 4 minutes.Tunguska left a lot more flattened trees, over a large area, so Chelyabinsk (estimated 20m diameter) was a long way behind Tunguska (estimated 50m diameter) in explosive power. If they were similar composition and travelling at the same speed, you expect the larger one to deliver about 16 times the kinetic energy.- Of course there have been much larger impacts in prehistoric times. Meteor Crater was formed about 50,000 years ago.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater
Which raises the question, why always Russia?