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God gave us his mind so we could journey through it through the journey of time.
...our sixth sense, the mind itself that receives and processes information. Our mind is an activity of light, (firing of neurons), receiving information from light. The optic nerve receives the visible light, the central nervous system receives and transmits information to the mind by the light of spirit transferred through electrical impulses. The stretching of light into the reality of space/time is a stretch of God's imagination. Time is an illusion of reality, as is reality itself. God gave us his mind so we could journey through it through the journey of time.
Thank you for your concern, but i think it was wrapped in a totally disengeneous meaning.
QuoteIt's not that our mind is closed to evidence of a creator, just that there is no evidence.The creation itself is the evidence.
It's not that our mind is closed to evidence of a creator, just that there is no evidence.
Our minds are not a sense (though they can be a good place to find non-sense!). Our minds process information from our senses. The only other 'store' of information our minds have is the rules and guiding principles that are hard-wired into it by our genetics. If a creator put them there all well & good; that doesn't change the observed facts - that's the kind of 'evidence' we're dealing with in the forum.
If you want to talk at length about God or His role in our world/universe, I suggest you find a Theological or philosophical forum to discuss these beliefs.
If you want to 'talk' science, then everyone here will be happy to listen, but you need to use the correct terminology or you'll continue to win very few people over. Statements like "light of spirit transferred through electrical impulses" is as useful as talking modern English to an ancient Egyptian - you've got to start with a common language of ideas.
Ultimately, you ought to decide what you want to get out of this forum.
How is that evidence of a god? Indeed the origins of the universe are a mystery, but if you assert that it must have a creator, then by that logic the creator must have a creator too, and a creator to create that creator, and your theory leads you to an infinite amount of magical creators. If you're going to reply to that with something like "God has no birth or death but always has been and always will be" then why not just cut out the middle man and adopt the simpler hypothesis and swap the word God for universe?
Quote from: WunderingTruth on 10/12/2009 03:06:21QuoteIt's not that our mind is closed to evidence of a creator, just that there is no evidence.The creation itself is the evidence.How is that evidence of a god? Indeed the origins of the universe are a mystery, but if you assert that it must have a creator, then by that logic the creator must have a creator too, and a creator to create that creator, and your theory leads you to an infinite amount of magical creators. If you're going to reply to that with something like "God has no birth or death but always has been and always will be" then why not just cut out the middle man and adopt the simpler hypothesis and swap the word God for universe?
Please remember, this is a science forum.
QuotePlease remember, this is a science forum.Right, and you'll never see God in the ( logic ) of your science will you? You just keep reasoning him away, you can explain all of that to him when you see him. Just know this he is your father too. You choose to deny him and believe the father of lies.
I am not just relying on logic. I know the purpose of all things. God is my father and he has revealed himself and his purpose to me.
You think all of this is about us?
Quote from: WunderingTruth on 11/12/2009 08:49:10I am not just relying on logic. I know the purpose of all things. God is my father and he has revealed himself and his purpose to me.The human brain is not perfect and is prone to hallucination and misinterpretation. Like any machine it can malfunction. Can you accept this possibility? If you are not relying on logic and believing purely because "God has revealed himself to you" then what's the difference between you and someone hopped up on LSD claiming they've just seen a unicorn being ridden by the easter bunny? Maybe god did reveal himself to you, maybe the person did see the easter bunny riding a unicorn, but you can't possibly consider this testimonial as evidence. I wouldn't even consider it evidence if it happened to myself!If suddenly a being flashed into existence right beside me now and went on to explain it was a god, and showed me all manner of supernatural powers, then if the rational thought processes of my brain still functioned I would have to come to the conclusion that I was hallucinating and seek to admit myself to a mental illness ward. It is a much more likely explanation than the existence of what I think i'm seeing and/or feeling.Or, if like you I was to 'not rely on logic' then I would accept my new god who looks like a great mess of floating spaghetti and meatballs and then go around trying to persuade people despite having no evidence he/she's real because they revealed themselves to me and I know! Just know this, the spaghetti monster is your father and if you choose to deny him then you're believing in the father of lies!You see how crazy that sounds?To 'not rely on logic' seems to be just plain mistaken by definition.QuoteYou think all of this is about us?All of this being the universe? No, I don't. I think we're the most tiny insignificant spec of dust. Do you think all of this is about us? A god created the whole vast universe just for a few primates who think they're special somehow?As Douglas Adams said, assuming that the universe has been created for us is rather like a puddle waking up one day and saying: 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'