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New Theories / How do Trees Really lift Water to their Leaves?
« on: 15/11/2009 10:07:26 »
Are you saying that you know better than the rest of us what gravity is and how it does and does not work?
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In logic and mathematics, a logical value, also called a truth value, is a value indicating to what extent a proposition is true.
I never said it couldn't. It was you being critical of something you could not do better yourself, as you admitted.
I don't think you've understood the comment. If you understood it, you would see the connection. Last time, different way of explaining: If there are parallel universes, then the laws of physics state that each universe will have exactly the same amount of particles in each universe, which is around 10^80, give or take a few tens. Now, if our universe began in a ground state, it means that you cannot get a universe any more simpler than a ground state. To expect that our universe out of so many arises to be the most simplest way for reality to form (and knowing that the simple-nature cannot be reduced any more) means that none of the other universes (an infinite amount of them) can have begun in a lower state of energy.
Now... this is true. What part of it do you argue?
Not for this topic it isn't. We are talking about entropy, not biological systems - we are talking about the cosmological make-up, not animals.
You are talking about devices. This is not a proper arguement to the conjecture being exampled. You cannot associate that therefore, with a quantum mechanical aspect of the universe.
Not my point. My point is is that you believe we have an accurate model of the evolution of the universe. This is not true, and there are many holes for error.
Physics is hard to explain. Could you do any better?
My idea of the irreducibility of the complexity was based purely on theoretical considerations on the current quantum-cosmological theory of entropy. The general acceptance of cosmologists and physicists alike state that the universe at the first instant of time yielded a peculiar low state of entropy - also known as a ground state - the lowest fundemental state you can get making the universe an efficient place. Since today the maximal amount of entropy is considered on the quantum and grand cosmological scales, then the minimum amount of entropy can be classed as reducing the entropy to a ground state (lowest entropy) but if one wanted another universe to begin fundementally in a lower state of entropy we have a paradox on what is allowed in any given universe. This would mean that the entropy in our universe is irreducibly-complex to state that no other universe could manifest in lower energy states.
Only in the biological sense. I made this clear in the OP
I don't know what you have been reading but the evolution of the universe now depends on an unseen force called dark energy which pervaids 74% of all the matter in the universe. If anything, we don't have any accuracy on cosmological scales, only local scales, such as our solar system