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Quote from: Just thinking on 05/07/2021 14:06:42I believe that the propagation of movement is faster than the propagation of sound in a selective medium. You are wrong.Let me know when something changes.
I believe that the propagation of movement is faster than the propagation of sound in a selective medium.
Quote from: Bored chemist on Today at 01:20:05 That's because the velocity of sound is important Sound is only important in the air sometimes in water but I can't swim so only important in the air for me.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 05/07/2021 16:20:05That's because the velocity of sound is important Sound is only important in the air sometimes in water but I can't swim so only important in the air for me.
That's because the velocity of sound is important
You seem to have forgotten what you were talking about.
Crazy as it may seem I believe it to be true.
essentially, you can't accelerate the front and back of an object at the _same time_. Another relativity of simultaenity thing.
You are free to state irrational beliefs like this, but it leaves me wondering why you would choose to do so. If you were merely ignorant of the physics, you'd likely be open to being corrected, but you display no such openness.Few people that are actually this ignorant would choose to go on public record about it. Therefore I suspect you are not, and don't actually hold this belief, but are making the statements anyway for another purpose. So for what purpose have you opened this topic?
I will stick with my belief.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 05/07/2021 15:59:23Quote from: Just thinking on 05/07/2021 14:06:42I believe that the propagation of movement is faster than the propagation of sound in a selective medium. You are wrong.Let me know when something changes.
Just thinking, you really need to listen to what everyone else is saying.
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You cannot begin accelerate both ends of an object at the same time by a force applied to only one of those ends. A force applied to both ends will of course allow the entire length of the thing to accelerate, and force in the past allows both ends to accelerate at once, just like my entire car might be accelerating halfway down the freeway ramp and not just one end.This is Newtonian physics, and Bell's spaceship paradox has nothing to do with it. It has to do with unequal acceleration of long rigid objects and length contraction. But the speed of sound thing is about physical strain (distortion) on an object of finite rigidity.
So for what purpose have you opened this topic?
However, my example describes a very small object of a rather rigid construction such as the mug or better still a very small diamond I feel that this would have a very different effect on the experoment. unfortunately, I do not think any experiments have been done to either prove or disprove the point that I have made. extreme hi-speed imaging would be required along with very technical and advanced actuators to perform this task. anyway, thank you again.
I believe in my statement until proven otherwise.
It has been, as I just pointed out.
do you think ore no is the propagation of sound corresponding with the propagation of movement is there a correlation between the two properties?
I think the temperament and the mood have been a little on the immature side in this debate.
I do not think any experiments have been done to either prove or disprove the point that I have made.
I believe in my statement until proven otherwise. As the speed of sound has been analysed as it travels through different medians but the speed of movement has not been analysed nor has it been compared in any scientific way and the more I think about how it could be analysed the more complicated it becomes so good luck if anyone wishes to try.
A diamond can relay sound at over 100 miles per second a very small diamond will have
Quote from: Just thinking on Today at 09:32:54 I think the temperament and the mood have been a little on the immature side in this debate.Quite; there's nothing less mature than your "la la la : I'm not listening" perspective, is there?Quote from: Just thinking on Today at 11:15:20 I do not think any experiments have been done to either prove or disprove the point that I have made. And yet, they have.I(t's just that, because you insist that you are right, you refuse to recognise those experiments- even the one you can do at home.You only have to tap the side of the mug with a pencil, and listen.You keep trying to pretend that sound is different.Well the atoms in the mug can't know that. They respond to a push just the same if it is caused by a sound wave or a pencil.They transfer the energy along at the same speed.How could they do anything different?This has already been pointed out but "la la la , you aren't listening" and it's not very matureReport to moderator LoggedPlease disregard all previous signatures.
Ok. I have surrendered to defeat I feel that all the information I have received from quite a few has changed my understanding of the principle actions of sound and movement through a solid.