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The temperature was estimated from the brightness.That's unreliable unless you have a black body radiator.Quasars are not BB.So, mainly, you just have bad journalism.
Tell us what your new theory is, Dave.
I have no authorization from you to tell my personal theory.
Quote from: Dave Lev on 05/09/2023 14:50:23I have no authorization from you to tell my personal theory.Then why did you start a thread in the board called "New Theories"?
What about the following article?
brightness temperature in excess of
The temperature was estimated from the brightness.That's unreliable unless you have a black body radiator.Quasars are not BB.
Do we know by now why Quasars are So Hot?
The temperature was estimated from the brightness.
Do you want to discuss quasars in general or specifically how hot they may be?
As for the measurements taken, it seems they are unexpected, so they don't match that of any particular mathematical model. This is how science progresses.
It would help to first understand why they thought there was a theoretical limit, and exactly how they concluded that this limit was exceeded.
Therefore, I would like to understand the current theory for this observation /fact
The quote "If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." is famous quote attributed to Albert Einstein (1879?1955), German-born physicist and founder of the theory of relativity.
The earliest published attribution of this quote to Einstein found on Google Books is the 1991 book The Art of Computer Systems Performance Analysis by Raj Jain (p. 507), but no source to Einstein's original writings is given and the quote itself is older
Rather, it is more likely that you are looking to find fault in modern science.
Well, don't you agree that based on the observed quasar temp there is a fault in the current theory for that specific issue?
However, first we must accept the facts that the quasar temp is over 10^13K.
To be fair, that's what scientists should do.
OP does not understand science.
Don't be silly, one paper making a proposal does not mean the proposal is a fact.It has been 7 years since that paper was written and it doesn't seem to have gotten much traction.
So far, the hottest place in the universe on record is the quasar 3C273, a brightly-shining region around a supermassive black hole roughly 2.4 billion light-years from Earth, Palumbo said. This region has a core temperature of about 10 trillion kelvin (more than 10 trillion degrees Fahrenheit and Celsius), according to the Greenbank Observatory in West Virginia. However, there is still uncertainty surrounding this temperature estimation, Palumbo added.
Quote from: Kryptid on 05/09/2023 20:28:33Rather, it is more likely that you are looking to find fault in modern science.To be fair, that's what scientists should do.
The problem is that the OP does not understand science.
QuoteSo far, the hottest place in the universe on record is the quasar 3C273, a brightly-shining region around a supermassive black hole roughly 2.4 billion light-years from Earth, Palumbo said. This region has a core temperature of about 10 trillion kelvin (more than 10 trillion degrees Fahrenheit and Celsius), according to the Greenbank Observatory in West Virginia. However, there is still uncertainty surrounding this temperature estimation, Palumbo added.So it seems there are questions as to the accuracy of the measurement.
Why?
I claim that EM is the ultimate force of the Universe?