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it has beeen interesting to read about dopamine/prolactin balance. I read about this here: http://www.reuniting.info/science/sex_and_addiction
Quote from: FinalPanic on 21/05/2010 21:00:37Oh and if it is depletion from being overactive sexually - how much do you need to do - surely every porn star and nightclub nympho would be suffering a life of abject hell by now!Yes but POIS may sometimes be caused by overactive sex while premature. Some of us have wondered if it might be due to excessive sex (usually masturbation) during early childhood development, before the system is ready.
Oh and if it is depletion from being overactive sexually - how much do you need to do - surely every porn star and nightclub nympho would be suffering a life of abject hell by now!
Quote from: John21 on 21/05/2010 22:08:44Quote from: FinalPanic on 21/05/2010 21:00:37Oh and if it is depletion from being overactive sexually - how much do you need to do - surely every porn star and nightclub nympho would be suffering a life of abject hell by now!Yes but POIS may sometimes be caused by overactive sex while premature. Some of us have wondered if it might be due to excessive sex (usually masturbation) during early childhood development, before the system is ready. Makes perfect sense to me.
I think maybe the Chi thing may help more with coping than curing.
Quote from: demografx on 22/05/2010 00:00:06Quote from: John21 on 21/05/2010 22:08:44Quote from: FinalPanic on 21/05/2010 21:00:37Oh and if it is depletion from being overactive sexually - how much do you need to do - surely every porn star and nightclub nympho would be suffering a life of abject hell by now!Yes but POIS may sometimes be caused by overactive sex while premature. Some of us have wondered if it might be due to excessive sex (usually masturbation) during early childhood development, before the system is ready. Makes perfect sense to me.I dont know, i didnt start till like 8th grade whichi is kinda late, i did excesseviely but what young boy do you know didnt.
Quote from: FinalPanic on 21/05/2010 20:58:51I think maybe the Chi thing may help more with coping than curing.Excellent perspective, in my opinion.
QuoteOver the years I have considered many reasons for this unhappy situation, including similar theories to the Chi thing. I have considered that I made same grand error in my youth (started too early), or I am being punished for misdemeanours in a previous life [] I think that we should not look great metaphysical theories. Pois is just a temporary imbalance of hormones after ejaculation.
Over the years I have considered many reasons for this unhappy situation, including similar theories to the Chi thing. I have considered that I made same grand error in my youth (started too early), or I am being punished for misdemeanours in a previous life
Dr Waldinger has studied more cases (maybe 20-30?) but only wrote a paper for two ones, very severe. But our forum made a great job in addition to his work. The third major step was Selwyn Dexter's work with progesterone.
I think this one-or-the-other way of thinking is absurd. You can still seek to improve physically and mentally whether your on drugs or not. And visa versa.
Forcing SleepI experimented this morning with forcing sleep to fight POIS...and it worked great!I know this sounds simplistic and naive, but just a little twist to the tried-and-true sleep method made a big difference for me today, so I wanted to report it.Even after a long night's slumber, I awoke to a 2nd Day Zero in 3 days - predictably not feeling well. But I had an appointment and also wanted to read. The mind was racing somewhat.But I thought I would experiment anyway to see if it would work, and it did! I cancelled my appointment. I put aside the reading material. Not easy for me. And it took a long time to nod off (2 hours?), using a TM meditation technique of repeating the same mantra over and over, gently pushing aside "thoughts of the day".Normally I would wait out the hours or the day and then take a nap, which would usually restore me to full force. But those usual hours in activity would be "POIS-strenuous"...so why not feel better sooner rather than later?Forcing the sleep was difficult, so next time I might even try some Benadryl, which was given to me in the hospital and makes sleep easier. I also increase my dosage of testosterone and stimulants on Day Zero.This now brings me closer to a 90% POIS-free experience more often than before. It's been a year and a half on this successful treatment. And I have no doubt that this simple new "early sleep" addition will make it even better.As I discussed with another forum member yesterday privately, immersing ourselves in this forum really helped us both tremendously. At first I resisted the group wisdom of being bloodtested hormonally, but I decided that my methods for 30+ years hadn't worked, so why not study hard all the posts written here and try what this forum suggests as it best applies to us?Thanks, everyone, for helping to turn my life around!
All of the mecanisms I don't have clear yet. I'm leaning away from thinking that my case is entirely unique to the vasectomy reversal, but leaning towards an overall immune system malfunction that could involve (the lack of) progesterone.
demo may be a testimonial for this since his t levels were fine but he had increased success against pois after taking extra testosterone.
i don't think imbalanced hormones are the problem.
Has anyone experienced pois symptoms while having jet lag ?
as far as Mayo Clinic goes, let it be known I am 2 hours away from there, and offer myself for any physical / mental testing, including exploratory surgery or anything else that might be somewhat risky.