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Quote from: Animus on 04/07/2010 05:59:14why does it take around 7 days to recover from POIS?My theory - but far from fact - is that very slow sperm regeneration time (SRT) causes the long recovery.Since TRT, my SRT is now very quick, and POIS is vastly reduced. When I'm "full" (again), I'm fine.Anyone agree/disagree?
why does it take around 7 days to recover from POIS?
...everything is in ranges except for: D3-low...
Quote from: horizon on 05/07/2010 10:42:32Quote from: demografx on 05/07/2010 02:36:34Quote from: horizon on 04/07/2010 18:12:16hi demo,can you email me that waldinger study? thanksSure. For PDF, PM me your regular email. OR for just plain text embedded in long PM, email not needed. Let me know which is preferred.text version as a PM would be great thanks!Sent.
Quote from: demografx on 05/07/2010 02:36:34Quote from: horizon on 04/07/2010 18:12:16hi demo,can you email me that waldinger study? thanksSure. For PDF, PM me your regular email. OR for just plain text embedded in long PM, email not needed. Let me know which is preferred.text version as a PM would be great thanks!
Quote from: horizon on 04/07/2010 18:12:16hi demo,can you email me that waldinger study? thanksSure. For PDF, PM me your regular email. OR for just plain text embedded in long PM, email not needed. Let me know which is preferred.
hi demo,can you email me that waldinger study? thanks
Quote from: demografx on 07/07/2010 02:57:58Quote from: Animus on 04/07/2010 05:59:14why does it take around 7 days to recover from POIS?My theory - but far from fact - is that very slow sperm regeneration time (SRT) causes the long recovery.Since TRT, my SRT is now very quick, and POIS is vastly reduced. When I'm "full" (again), I'm fine.Anyone agree/disagree?I agree... I think it has to do with sperm and semen regeneration too. I was looking up the time it takes to make sperm, and found that it takes about 74 days, and is being done all the time, but it takes 2-6 days for the sperm to make their final journey and mature fully... the article is here: http://www.ehow.com/about_5503589_long-sperm-mature.htmlSo I found that interesting because it seems to match the time it takes to recover...
Maybe poor internet connection where I'm staying? I'm traveling next 4 days w/iPhone no puter.Can anyone else send Waldinger study to horizon, embedded in his PM? Thank you.
Quote from: Animus on 04/07/2010 18:14:37demographx, do you have a letter which you send to potential POIS researchers? I once sent out about 50 letters to urologists in New York, and I got one response referring me to a specialist. I am going to start up this process again. Also, has someone compiled the survey data into a short form? Like a summary?In a way we've done a lot of our own research and testing, and it would be good to document it. I am interested in doing that, will get started right away.Martin88 makes an excellent point: we get the best results from Directors, Managers, i.e., generalists, rather than researchers. Of course, in some cases, we have no choice when it's an independent researcher.Feel free to use/modify:Dear Dr./Mr./Ms. X, We would like to know if you would be interested in helping to research a serious new medical condition (described below). The smallest suggestion, idea, opinion or ideally a proposition from you to initiate some research, would be very welcome and appreciated. We already have a group of sufferers who would be willing to participate in a study. The first cases were officially described in 2002, by Dr. Marcel Waldinger (MD PhD) and endocrinologist Dr. Dave Schweitzer, MD.(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11995603). He referred to the condition as "Postorgasmic Illness Syndrome" (POIS). His study results are attached. Essentially, those with POIS usually suffer debilitating symptoms that follow within minutes of orgasm, and last for days. The symptoms include severe fatigue, anxiety, and cognitive impairment. About 300 cases can be found directly (or are linked) on a UK Science forum, "The Naked Scientists", which is administered by a Cambridge medic. Other cases are being increasingly described by the ISSM (International Society for Sexual Medicine). Please consider this carefully. A helpful response could save lives. If you have any questions, or need more information, please ask. Best regards, [Your username][or first name, surname initial - -or full name if you're comfortable]POIS Forumh t t p : / / t i n y u r l . c o m / d 3 u v 8 8 [without spaces]And please don't forget to add to Martin88's database:http://pois.vndv.com/email_list.php
demographx, do you have a letter which you send to potential POIS researchers? I once sent out about 50 letters to urologists in New York, and I got one response referring me to a specialist. I am going to start up this process again. Also, has someone compiled the survey data into a short form? Like a summary?In a way we've done a lot of our own research and testing, and it would be good to document it. I am interested in doing that, will get started right away.
I took some Claritin Clear, antihistamine yesterday, and man, I am never doing that again. My POIS, as I've said before, comes in 2 stages, 1st is emotional (terrible mood, I want to kill somebody) , 2nd is mental (brain fog). I haven't O'd in 15 days and took it on the 14th day. Always as I "O", my brain fog stage turns into the emotional stage. As I took the antihistamine, this had happened, very weird. Thinking was crystal clear, but mood was the worst ever.Testosterone, or should I say demografx [)], I would try it, but I am a teenager with acne, and I think testosterone would probably be worse for me to take... right? I believe I am full of it now.Somebody else try claritin clear or an antihistamine (preferrably c.c. though) and see how they feel.
For the record, my POIS used to last about a week, but then it grew to 2 weeks for a while, and then gradually went to 4 weeks. Now, it's been a little over one month since my last O, and I'm just now starting to feel better.
*as a side note I am also currently taking...vitamin D tablets.
TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR POISGuys, I am glad I found this site today and also discovered the term POIS today as well. I have been trying to resolve my POIS for the last 5 years. I am 26 and athletic. I suffer ED and PE as well. Here's what ELIMINATES the POIS symptomps. Do intense sports and sweat heavily. Either a 50 plus laps of nonstop swim, or a 8 km run at least will eliminate the symptomps completely and get me to normal IMMEDIATELY as though I had no pois at all. But this only undoes the sympotomps and of course does not resolve the root of the problem permantently.I am sure it works for you as well. Try it. Cardiac Exercise gets the blood going through the brain. Resistance exercise or walking or cycling does not work here. Lemme know if it works for you as well. This way you can avoid having to wait for many days to recover.
post-orgasm related studiesStuart Brody of the University of Paisley, UK, and Tillmann Krüger of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurichhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg18925405.900also Aliisa K. Humphries¹ and Jan Cioe¹¹ Psychology Department, University of British Columbia Okanagan, Kelowna, BCare doing/have done post-orgasm studieshttp://www.sieccan.org/abstracts/vol18no3.htmlhttp://web.ubc.ca/okanagan/psyo/faculty/cioe.html(not exactly what we are looking for but there you go)