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These watches have been around since (at least ) the 70s but the microelectronic technology needed to determine orientation WRT Earth's gravity (never mind the rest of the Universe) is much newer.So we know that this "Quote from: mad aetherist on 29/05/2019 23:44:18If the manufacturers are smart they might have incorporated some kind of remedial circuitry to compensate for the "known" orientation-error.is also impossible.
If the manufacturers are smart they might have incorporated some kind of remedial circuitry to compensate for the "known" orientation-error.
I fail to see why (in silly standard science) some clocks might need to know which way is up. Am i missing something?
What micro electronic technology? A fishing sinker on a string would do the trick.
Quote from: mad aetherist on 31/05/2019 00:42:35I fail to see why (in silly standard science) some clocks might need to know which way is up. Am i missing something?In reality, they don't.But, in your bizzare world where they have to take account of the ether wind, they need to know what direction that wind is blowing. The first step in that process would be to establish which way is up.Quote from: mad aetherist on 31/05/2019 00:42:35What micro electronic technology? A fishing sinker on a string would do the trick.You think there's room for a plumb line and a mechanism to measure and allow for its position in a wristwatch? No, there is plainly not. So there's no way that any watch could do what you said it would.This "If the manufacturers are smart they might have incorporated some kind of remedial circuitry to compensate for the "known" orientation-error." is delusional.
In the sense that a good clock should have a sticker with its rated orientation re aetherwind
Quote from: mad aetherist on 31/05/2019 11:31:29In the sense that a good clock should have a sticker with its rated orientation re aetherwindAnd yet they don't. Don't you understand how good clocks are?This -clearly macroscopic- clock keeps much better time than you say is possible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortt%E2%80%93Synchronome_clock(And if anyone wins the lottery and wants to buy me a present, I'd really like one of those clocks.)
orientation of Sun & Moon, i
Quote from: mad aetherist on 01/06/2019 00:49:20 orientation of Sun & Moon, iThe moon.... But the Moon's in orbit around us- not the other way.It makes sense for any hypothetical effect of the ether to vay on a daily or yearly basis because those are teh periodicities with which we make or way through the universe.But the Moon pretty much just swings round us. So, the fact that those clocks record the effect of tides, but not of the year, shows that you are wrong.
The big effect of the moon is that the tides pull the Earth's surface up towards it (just as they do with the sea).That takes the clock further from the centre of the Earth and that reduces the local value of the acceleration due to gravity.That, in turn, messes with the clock. No need to invoke relativity or ether. (There are relativistic effects, but they are small).
Quote from: mad aetherist on 01/06/2019 00:49:20 orientation of Sun & Moon, iThe moon....But the Moon's in orbit around us- not the other way. It makes sense for any hypothetical effect of the ether to vay on a daily or yearly basis because those are teh periodicities with which we make or way through the universe.But the Moon pretty much just swings round us. So, the fact that those clocks record the effect of tides, but not of the year, shows that you are wrong.
here is some wordage of mine from another thread
Quote from: mad aetherist on 02/06/2019 00:20:45 here is some wordage of mine from another threadAnd it wasn't convincing the first time.
But even Einsteinians like yourself must believe that the Earth's shape is affected by length contraction due to Earth's spin
Defining the aether, as quantum foam/froth which either allows photons to pass, or be absorbed and reemitted as they pass through the electromagnetic field/quantum foam is workable.