1
New Theories / Re: Does the future already exist?
« on: 24/03/2015 22:23:55 »
Gentlemen,
Here are my thoughts, please chew on them a bit, see how they taste and let me know how I did.
Firstly one of the first scientists, Siddhartha Gautama. Studied at length the question of time and came to a conclusion that may fail theories of time space and relativity but passes the test of relevance. Meaning whenever you need to answer a related question that needs this answer for a variable, plug it in and it works. His answer was, there is only the present moment. That is not to say that time does not exist because that would be silly. Time is just our understanding of the nature of the current moment's transition to the next. Think of a motion picture frame by frame. In our current frame the effects of past frames linger but the past is burned away as it becomes the now. The future is not yet in existence because all the pieces of the present to include decisions we make have not yet manifested however as they do the now disappears and the future becomes the now. Seamless and perfect. No past, no future just now. Could other theories be true, maybe but this will always pass the relevance test. Does it matter if the future already exists? No, because for all practical purposes it does not. Generally speaking an inability to perceive or affect either the past or future further aides the argument for this theory.
As for the God question. Quoting scripture in a science forum is juvenile at best. Use logic to form your argument. I will not repeat the adequate explanations of why if there is a future then there can be no free will and therefore god... whatever. But what I will say is try this other test of relevance. When the question of GOD comes up substitute...all existence, the entire NOW frame for GOD. Us included not separate and it works. Example who created the universe? Spontaneous big bang=self creation= GOD did. Bam. Knocked that out in an afternoon. What is God's will? All things in the universe operate according to the laws of science which we continue to discover. If everything is god then these laws must be gods will. The way the Now evolves over time is the will of GOD. Nothing more. If I pray to god will it help? Only if by praying you mean that you get off your ass an do something about it. Anything else is coincidental. Is GOD good? Depends on your point of view I imagine. Overall I would say the Muslims have it right on this front. Just say thanks for the opportunity to exist. Praise be to god who created and provides for us all. Or however you'd say it.
Sorry I started to get off topic.
As Siddhartha once said don't just take my word meditate on it yourself, find the real truth for yourself. If what I say is true it will not fail under harsh examination.
And my man Einstein said "any idiot can make a thing bigger and more complicated it takes real genius to move in the other direction". So if it passes the relevance test and is super simple why develop a more complicated theory.
Here are my thoughts, please chew on them a bit, see how they taste and let me know how I did.
Firstly one of the first scientists, Siddhartha Gautama. Studied at length the question of time and came to a conclusion that may fail theories of time space and relativity but passes the test of relevance. Meaning whenever you need to answer a related question that needs this answer for a variable, plug it in and it works. His answer was, there is only the present moment. That is not to say that time does not exist because that would be silly. Time is just our understanding of the nature of the current moment's transition to the next. Think of a motion picture frame by frame. In our current frame the effects of past frames linger but the past is burned away as it becomes the now. The future is not yet in existence because all the pieces of the present to include decisions we make have not yet manifested however as they do the now disappears and the future becomes the now. Seamless and perfect. No past, no future just now. Could other theories be true, maybe but this will always pass the relevance test. Does it matter if the future already exists? No, because for all practical purposes it does not. Generally speaking an inability to perceive or affect either the past or future further aides the argument for this theory.
As for the God question. Quoting scripture in a science forum is juvenile at best. Use logic to form your argument. I will not repeat the adequate explanations of why if there is a future then there can be no free will and therefore god... whatever. But what I will say is try this other test of relevance. When the question of GOD comes up substitute...all existence, the entire NOW frame for GOD. Us included not separate and it works. Example who created the universe? Spontaneous big bang=self creation= GOD did. Bam. Knocked that out in an afternoon. What is God's will? All things in the universe operate according to the laws of science which we continue to discover. If everything is god then these laws must be gods will. The way the Now evolves over time is the will of GOD. Nothing more. If I pray to god will it help? Only if by praying you mean that you get off your ass an do something about it. Anything else is coincidental. Is GOD good? Depends on your point of view I imagine. Overall I would say the Muslims have it right on this front. Just say thanks for the opportunity to exist. Praise be to god who created and provides for us all. Or however you'd say it.
Sorry I started to get off topic.
As Siddhartha once said don't just take my word meditate on it yourself, find the real truth for yourself. If what I say is true it will not fail under harsh examination.
And my man Einstein said "any idiot can make a thing bigger and more complicated it takes real genius to move in the other direction". So if it passes the relevance test and is super simple why develop a more complicated theory.