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Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 23:04:40I think (u) may be the mass in your question and V would be the occupied volume of spaceWait a minute... in order to find out the size of an atom, you have to input the volume of an atom into the equation? That's circular reasoning, as the volume of an atom is already a measure of its size...
I think (u) may be the mass in your question and V would be the occupied volume of space
And the size is proportional to volume is a volume of space .
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 21:41:13Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:13:07I meant, as part of your demonstration that you are not talking nonsense, by calculating the heat of combustion of hydrogen, you would need to know the internal energy of oxygen.I'm guessing you need the same parameter for hydrogen.Anything else?You aren't going to suddenly decide that you need the rate of change of density of jupiter's 23rd biggest satellite or something like that?No not at all lol , what ever that means My equation is just a simplified equation that explains almost everything . I mean ask a question , how big is an atom ? V==4/3 π r³ / tWhat's exothermic process ?x=Why do gases expand when heated ? >V = It has so many uses , quite magical . Ok. If they as you claim, explain these things, give a simple explanation of how they do so.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:13:07I meant, as part of your demonstration that you are not talking nonsense, by calculating the heat of combustion of hydrogen, you would need to know the internal energy of oxygen.I'm guessing you need the same parameter for hydrogen.Anything else?You aren't going to suddenly decide that you need the rate of change of density of jupiter's 23rd biggest satellite or something like that?No not at all lol , what ever that means My equation is just a simplified equation that explains almost everything . I mean ask a question , how big is an atom ? V==4/3 π r³ / tWhat's exothermic process ?x=Why do gases expand when heated ? >V = It has so many uses , quite magical .
I meant, as part of your demonstration that you are not talking nonsense, by calculating the heat of combustion of hydrogen, you would need to know the internal energy of oxygen.I'm guessing you need the same parameter for hydrogen.Anything else?You aren't going to suddenly decide that you need the rate of change of density of jupiter's 23rd biggest satellite or something like that?
Quote from: Kryptid on 31/03/2019 18:12:57Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:11:09It's used to calculate almost everything , you just have to put in the values . So what values would I need to supply in order for the equation to show me the amount of energy released when hydrogen burns in oxygen?Well you'd have to be really good at math to work that out because that would be the value of u would be the value of hydrogens u . What you are asking is for the deeper more complex side of the simplified equation , which is meant for higher education . I don't know the values personally , that is why I came up with the equation , I don't need to know the intricates for the simplified version to understand the process and physics of almost everything by using the equation .
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 18:11:09It's used to calculate almost everything , you just have to put in the values . So what values would I need to supply in order for the equation to show me the amount of energy released when hydrogen burns in oxygen?
It's used to calculate almost everything , you just have to put in the values .
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 23:10:29And the size is proportional to volume is a volume of space .Again, are you saying that you already have to know what the volume of an atom is in order to use this equation?
So essentially what you are saying is, you claim to have created an 'equation' but you don't know what any of the parameters or operators stand for. That is not an equation, it is a random collection of symbols that are meaningless. You really don't understand what equations are do you? You think that all you need to do is throw some impressive looking symbols in will do. Sloppy, like all of your thinking. But then, you are just pratting about aren't you pigeon?
No, concerning atoms , it tells you why the volume of atom is the volume of an atom
Quote from: The Spoon on 31/03/2019 23:08:36Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 21:41:13Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:13:07I meant, as part of your demonstration that you are not talking nonsense, by calculating the heat of combustion of hydrogen, you would need to know the internal energy of oxygen.I'm guessing you need the same parameter for hydrogen.Anything else?You aren't going to suddenly decide that you need the rate of change of density of jupiter's 23rd biggest satellite or something like that?No not at all lol , what ever that means My equation is just a simplified equation that explains almost everything . I mean ask a question , how big is an atom ? V==4/3 π r³ / tWhat's exothermic process ?x=Why do gases expand when heated ? >V = It has so many uses , quite magical . Ok. If they as you claim, explain these things, give a simple explanation of how they do so. Ok, consider a metal block with dimensions xyz , If you increase the magnitude of E³ you increase the volume ,the block expands .
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 23:22:24No, concerning atoms , it tells you why the volume of atom is the volume of an atomSo then you can't use it to calculate the size of an atom?I'm trying to give you a fair opportunity to prove that your equation works and can give the right answers. So why don't you give us an example of something that can indeed be accurately calculated with the equation? I'll even help you do the math.
Deliberately avoiding the question please explain what each symbol represents and how it is relevant to the specific thing you claim it calculates. Also, explain why the following statement is true:'If you increase the magnitude of E³ you increase the volume ,the block expands'Explain using words not what you claim to be maths so that the concept can be assessed.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:52:50OK, here's a question somebody already asked.How much heat is released by the combustion of hydrogen?What inputs do you need?Are you talking about the energy released when an hydrogen atom is split or the heat energy that is generated by kinetics between the friction of particles ?
OK, here's a question somebody already asked.How much heat is released by the combustion of hydrogen?What inputs do you need?
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2019 22:07:45Quote from: Bored chemist on 31/03/2019 21:52:50OK, here's a question somebody already asked.How much heat is released by the combustion of hydrogen?What inputs do you need?Are you talking about the energy released when an hydrogen atom is split or the heat energy that is generated by kinetics between the friction of particles ? If I take, for example, 1 litre of hydrogen and burn it in a blowtorch and have the heat and fumes from that blowtorch heat some water how much heat is transferred to the water (assuming none is wasted).Some set up like the "simple calorimeter" pictured on this page.http://staff.um.edu.mt/ratk1/Energetics.htm
I only use the number 1 for my values , for example an atoms density = 1 , E = 1 , volume = 1 , u = 1.
Quote from: Thebox on 01/04/2019 15:38:20I only use the number 1 for my values , for example an atoms density = 1 , E = 1 , volume = 1 , u = 1. I guess that means you weren't telling the truth when you said that you were using metric units, because an atom's density is not 1 kilogram per cubic meter, its energy is not 1 joule, etc.
I don't have "an equation".But I have what you asked for- a value for u for hydrogen.
Ok, could you provide that value and please explain how the value was derived ?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/04/2019 21:29:59I don't have "an equation".But I have what you asked for- a value for u for hydrogen.Ok, could you provide that value and please explain how the value was derived ?
Quote from: Thebox on 02/04/2019 02:09:44Quote from: Bored chemist on 01/04/2019 21:29:59I don't have "an equation".But I have what you asked for- a value for u for hydrogen.Ok, could you provide that value and please explain how the value was derived ?As you already said, u is the internal energy calculated as given herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_energyso, it's not as if I can move the goalposts.Now please tell me what you intend to do with the value I give, in order to calculate the heat of combustion.