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There are definitely proving to be multiple stop gap "remedies" for our multiple orgasm issues. Multiple puns intended. [] []I think it's great that we have so many variations on the theme---so many bright people who are willing to risk talking about POIS and experimenting on themselves with whatever they feel will work best for them. Leaving the door open for personal investigation and continued experimentation is going to serve everybody's interest in the long run.
This is a random post amist good discussion. But I want to know if anyone here is from Colorado like I. It would be beneficial and more convincing for two suffers to work with the same doctor. Many Docs are hesitant to take time studying one case of an unknown disease. My doc actually suggested this!Any CO folks here?
Quote from: demografx on 07/01/2009 20:37:42Steve, FWIW, as I mentioned on earlier posts, I chased the Taoist theories and methods for years to no avail. Girlwind has too (I shouldn't speak for her, but I do recall a couple posts she made to that effect).I agree with the Taoist idea of refraining from orgasm, though I was never very successful at the Mantak Chia technique of "aborted orgasm." Just to clarify the difference. Or maybe I just did the Mantak Chia method wrong... Either way the aborted orgasm technique didn't work for me, but refraining from orgasm is something I'm learning to excel at. Except of course, when my dreams interfere with that agenda.
Steve, FWIW, as I mentioned on earlier posts, I chased the Taoist theories and methods for years to no avail. Girlwind has too (I shouldn't speak for her, but I do recall a couple posts she made to that effect).
Quote from: girlwind on 07/01/2009 21:27:55but refraining from orgasm is something I'm learning to excel at.
Exercise and playing music have always helped me. When I had a particularly bad period back in 97/98, I wrote quite a bit of music (using guitar), and it helped me relax immensely. I even had a sound studio for awhile, and making music can be quite therapeutic. Abstinence has always been my most effective strategy for succor.
I think the "joylessness" of others' reactions might be some version of fear. Health issues with a baffling tinge to them (like POIS and CFS) sometimes freak people out, in ways that they aren't even aware of. I'm happy to hear that you are celebrating in spite of that. Hallelujah to creativity! Music and painting have been my saving grace as well. And new shoes can be a good thing too. []
I am amazed at how many of us are musically inclined. On a previous post it was noticed that many of us played instruments. Demo was one, I forget the rest...now SteveD as well. What do you think, strange coincidence?
OK. Nothing left to do then start a band.P.rofessional O.rchestrated I.nstrument S.ymphonyStarring:
It seems that FenuGreek and Maca which I take 3x/day along with Garden of life Restore(FYI Ultra also works ) has the greatest effect on the CFS/Fibromyalgia symptoms. Yohimbe and Horney goat weed seem to be more of a secondary help in the formula. Works good taken with fruit juice(berries Pomegranite etc) I also take about 50mg. od DHEA. When I took it alone there wasn't a great effect. I haven't had an orgasm in 2 months. The physical desire goes down as long as there isn't too much stress to deal with. Kind of keeping my mind on other things as much as possible. Having good results and progress keeps positive mental energy.
I think Henri [Honoré] de Balzac might have been right, perhaps.
I've been noticing strangeness in my life as I transition to post-looking-for-a-solution-to-POIS. I'm feeling quite susceptible and vulnerable to some pleasant, but self destructive, dark urges I have. I think that's because my guard is down. I found POIS so difficult to solve that it kept other less destructive things at bay while I was working on it. I wasn't expecting that, but it makes sense to me.Also, not having to debate in my head whether to have an orgasm or not on a moment-per-moment-during- the-event basis frees me to notice some more subtle things. When I am being non-orgasmically sexual I get jolts of neurochemicals that are hypnotic and intoxicating, almost opiate quality alterations. These are extremely physically pleasurable. That's the good news. The bad news is that there is a residual, damping, if not debilitating effect. Certainly the extreme mental clarity and dexterousness are virtually annihilated....and I ain't near as funny!
Quote from: SteveD on 07/01/2009 21:47:00I think Henri [Honoré] de Balzac might have been right, perhaps."The mother's heart is the child's schoolroom," "A lover always thinks of his mistress first and himself second; with a husband it runs the other way," "The more one judges, the less one loves." (Just giving you a hard time, Steve [])
I think we kidded about starting a band at one point, and Demo even created a set list.
...prepping to teach Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) tomorrow and hunting for a gig in a difficult district here in town. It's little stuff, but it's meaningful to me.
Steve, forgive me for being presumptuous, but you sound just like I did when I thought I had POIS solved. A CRASHING disappointment arrived in the form of unwanted release. I honestly wish you the best. I would just hate to see the same thing happen!
Quote from: SteveD on 10/01/2009 07:42:56...prepping to teach Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) tomorrow and hunting for a gig in a difficult district here in town. It's little stuff, but it's meaningful to me.Hardly sounds like "little stuff"!