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I am sorry, are you angry? I wanted to wait a couple days that's all.
the very fact they have been published means quite a lot of appreciators of literature think that this is good poetry
However in order to write university essays, or school essays you would probably have to and search for meanings - whether they were intentionally put there or not.
Surely the reason why Shakespeare has lasted so long is that his work can be analysed in so many ways.
Any writer surely would like it that someone found their own meaning in their writing. Or are writers to be dictators with the ideas their work conjures?
real poetry disturbs you, moves you and makes you think. You can't write 2000 words on that.
And artists do not have access to the subconscious workings of their own mind - where arguably spontaneous poetry and creative ideas flow from.
Quote from: Musicforawhile on 14/11/2014 21:34:37 However in order to write university essays, or school essays you would probably have to and search for meanings - whether they were intentionally put there or not.That's a dangerous analysis - it makes the study of literature into pure narcissism and devalues the original work of art. If a scientist said it, he'd be given the slow handclap, but if an English lecturer said it, he'd be feted as a controversial critic of the genre, bete noire, you name it, and be assured of endless dinners and lecturing engagements - remember Leavis and Snow. QuoteSurely the reason why Shakespeare has lasted so long is that his work can be analysed in so many ways. Or, more like, because/ the public likes his pithy plays and poems / and actors find them easy to present (You'll find nowt for analysis there, but memorable metrication of a simple theme)which is quite different from the eminently forgettable and indeed lumpy prose of some of his contemporary playwrights and many others, right up to Noel Coward. QuoteAny writer surely would like it that someone found their own meaning in their writing. Or are writers to be dictators with the ideas their work conjures?I was brought up on Gowers' Plain Words. The test of good writing is the absence of ambiguity, unless you are writing a farce. And even then, an intentional triple entendre is about the limit. Quote real poetry disturbs you, moves you and makes you think. You can't write 2000 words on that. a perfect example! An entire profession dismissed in two sentences. Precision, economy, what more could anyone ask of an author?QuoteAnd artists do not have access to the subconscious workings of their own mind - where arguably spontaneous poetry and creative ideas flow from. So what is the value or validity of a third-party analysis? Lawyers haggle over equivocal intentions, but only where lives and property are at stake.