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Technology / How do water fuel cells work?
« on: 28/07/2008 15:47:30 »
I'm glad you're experimenting. We truely need more people out there ready to stick their neck out there to get some true numbers.
I deffinitally used the 'spent water' thing the wrong way. Sorry, my bad. I was thinking off a theory that I had read about somewhere that the way 100% water cars work is by consuming h2o and gaining energy for motion off of that.
There are those who claim 100% water fuel, but there isn't enough evidence to prove whether or not their claims are true. (Stanly Meyer, Daniel Dangle... ect). Personally, I don't think it's at all impossible to run a car completly off of water, but right now I don't have the expertice, nor the capital to start working on something like that, so I'll stick to the little leagues.
A 50% increase is up there. There's claims of 100% increase (doubling millage), which isn't impossible, but is hard to believe. The water4gas system doesn't fully rely on just a water fuel cell (booster), but also impliments a fuel additive, and a fuel heater (somehow attached to the fuel line, so that the fuel is hot before it hits the cylinder (eccpecially helpful before the engine is warmed up) making a cleaner, more efficient burn). I think they may also encourage an increase in tire preasure, which is going to evintually give those cars a bad case of the rollovers and send insurance prices higher.
In my current tank of gas, I put about 2 and 1/2 oz of acetone in before fill up. I know this sounds corky, and I was forcing myself not to allow any dreamy super-effects to occure due to the speculation that they might occur, but I couldn't help but notice a better responce time (eccpecially when flooring it and a total elimination of the slight dinging sound that had found it's way into my car a number of months ago. I havn't finished the tank of gas yet (I'm about 1/4 done) but from a guestimation stand poin I'm getting about 40mpg when I should be getting about 36mpg (the way I drive can send the mpg anywhere from 34 (driving like a maniack) to 40 (driving like a grandma). This tank of gas I'm deliberately driving at about 36mpg to see if I can get about a 10% increase (as reported by others) resulting in 40mpg.
I also just purchased a set of Halo spark plugs, which claim a range of mpg increase, depinding of the vehicle. I expect about a 10% increase, kicking my total mpg to around 44mpg (an increase of 22% from the base of 36mpg).
With the water fuel cell, or booster, I only expect about another 10% increase, although this could be more or less (hopefully more). That would bring the efficiency up to around 48mpg (rivaling that of a toyota prius). and there are still other devices to be added, if they sound like a good investment (e.g. the fuel heater and scangauge).
I think it's fair to say that any good DIYer can increase their mpgs by at least 30% for under $200. It's all about making the system more efficient.
I deffinitally used the 'spent water' thing the wrong way. Sorry, my bad. I was thinking off a theory that I had read about somewhere that the way 100% water cars work is by consuming h2o and gaining energy for motion off of that.
There are those who claim 100% water fuel, but there isn't enough evidence to prove whether or not their claims are true. (Stanly Meyer, Daniel Dangle... ect). Personally, I don't think it's at all impossible to run a car completly off of water, but right now I don't have the expertice, nor the capital to start working on something like that, so I'll stick to the little leagues.
A 50% increase is up there. There's claims of 100% increase (doubling millage), which isn't impossible, but is hard to believe. The water4gas system doesn't fully rely on just a water fuel cell (booster), but also impliments a fuel additive, and a fuel heater (somehow attached to the fuel line, so that the fuel is hot before it hits the cylinder (eccpecially helpful before the engine is warmed up) making a cleaner, more efficient burn). I think they may also encourage an increase in tire preasure, which is going to evintually give those cars a bad case of the rollovers and send insurance prices higher.
In my current tank of gas, I put about 2 and 1/2 oz of acetone in before fill up. I know this sounds corky, and I was forcing myself not to allow any dreamy super-effects to occure due to the speculation that they might occur, but I couldn't help but notice a better responce time (eccpecially when flooring it and a total elimination of the slight dinging sound that had found it's way into my car a number of months ago. I havn't finished the tank of gas yet (I'm about 1/4 done) but from a guestimation stand poin I'm getting about 40mpg when I should be getting about 36mpg (the way I drive can send the mpg anywhere from 34 (driving like a maniack) to 40 (driving like a grandma). This tank of gas I'm deliberately driving at about 36mpg to see if I can get about a 10% increase (as reported by others) resulting in 40mpg.
I also just purchased a set of Halo spark plugs, which claim a range of mpg increase, depinding of the vehicle. I expect about a 10% increase, kicking my total mpg to around 44mpg (an increase of 22% from the base of 36mpg).
With the water fuel cell, or booster, I only expect about another 10% increase, although this could be more or less (hopefully more). That would bring the efficiency up to around 48mpg (rivaling that of a toyota prius). and there are still other devices to be added, if they sound like a good investment (e.g. the fuel heater and scangauge).
I think it's fair to say that any good DIYer can increase their mpgs by at least 30% for under $200. It's all about making the system more efficient.