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Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 30/09/2019 05:12:17Quote from: Europan Ocean on 29/09/2019 13:43:00All knowledge and wisdom and prophecy is invalid and even if you see an angel you don't know what to make of it.Perhaps I'll ask about some unsolved problems in mathematics and get 1 million dollar of easy money.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_ProblemsGod and the psychic world operate according to a set of rules. Much like the real world does. Getting rich is selfish and your request will not be granted. A prayer group for a deserving person is much more likely to succeed in modest ways.There are huge numbers of frauds who operate using people's greed. It is one way to tell who they are. Another example is tales of direct conversations and visits to God such as told by Wendy Alec. It just does not happen although people really want to believe it does. People want to hear stories confirming the supernatural and they lose their skepticism.I had no control over the psychic events that happened to me. They were few and random but after a long time (when I was in my sixties) I could see a pattern of learning. That is the science part. Observing and making deductions that are not contradictory or illogical.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 29/09/2019 13:43:00All knowledge and wisdom and prophecy is invalid and even if you see an angel you don't know what to make of it.Perhaps I'll ask about some unsolved problems in mathematics and get 1 million dollar of easy money.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems
All knowledge and wisdom and prophecy is invalid and even if you see an angel you don't know what to make of it.
Quote from: CliveG on 30/09/2019 05:41:43Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 30/09/2019 05:12:17Quote from: Europan Ocean on 29/09/2019 13:43:00All knowledge and wisdom and prophecy is invalid and even if you see an angel you don't know what to make of it.Perhaps I'll ask about some unsolved problems in mathematics and get 1 million dollar of easy money.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_ProblemsGod and the psychic world operate according to a set of rules. Much like the real world does. Getting rich is selfish and your request will not be granted. A prayer group for a deserving person is much more likely to succeed in modest ways.There are huge numbers of frauds who operate using people's greed. It is one way to tell who they are. Another example is tales of direct conversations and visits to God such as told by Wendy Alec. It just does not happen although people really want to believe it does. People want to hear stories confirming the supernatural and they lose their skepticism.I had no control over the psychic events that happened to me. They were few and random but after a long time (when I was in my sixties) I could see a pattern of learning. That is the science part. Observing and making deductions that are not contradictory or illogical.What if I pledge to donate all of that money to charities to save starving children in developing countries?
Quote from: CliveG on 29/09/2019 20:26:37I began living in a farm cottage which I realized had a bad spirit causing daily problems. On a science site?Really?
I began living in a farm cottage which I realized had a bad spirit causing daily problems.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 29/09/2019 22:06:34Quote from: CliveG on 29/09/2019 20:26:37I began living in a farm cottage which I realized had a bad spirit causing daily problems. On a science site?Really?Isn't that the sort of thing Carl Jung experienced before he devised modern psychology? Paranormal psychology.
A prayer group for a deserving person is much more likely to succeed in modest ways.
It comes down to your motivation. If you are trying to test the existence of God, that is not allowed. If you want to get fame and recognition, that again is a selfish act. God wants people to strive to do good - not fill out an application form. God only intervenes for small personal requests that are easy to do and difficult to prove his/her existence, or the intervention is to guide the destiny of humankind.These last interventions can different forms. One is that he can do nothing to prevent a pandemic like the Black Plague. Another is that he can stop a pandemic from spreading at a time it would direct humankind in the wrong direction. He is going to do nothing to stop the pending die-off which has already started but people are ignoring it and will ignore it until too late.Most big interventions look natural. The extinction of the dinosaurs is an example.Note that my hypothesis of God being part of the virtual reality means that God has limitations as does Satan. The Infinite Intelligence can allow God to do just about anything, and know just about anything, so my hypothesis does not interfere with how religions view God. It does explain the limitations of God despite his enormous ability to be powerful and all knowing. It explains why evil exists in the form of Satan.I experienced the Infinite Intelligence when I was in my twenties. My studies of various religions recently made me aware of the Hindu concept of Brahman which is similar.I also experienced being judged after death. I learned there is no argument. All is known. Once I was sent back because I was lacking achievement (either good or bad). The other time I was terminated permanently (but woke the next morning because it was a lesson). The lesson here is that souls are not necessarily eternal. Having experienced death twice in my dreams (painful sword in the neck and sword in the gut), I guess that re-incarnation of souls is possible. Re-incarnation makes sense. Souls evolve as species evolve. Otherwise there would be enormous number of souls just hanging around. Even with reincarnation, people should follow the teachings of Jesus and not look down upon a suffering person as one being taught Karma.The souls direct the growing spirit to guide the growing physical. One does not come back in a lesser form. This is needed for the formation of the brain which cannot follow genetic code to form the structures needed. Simply too complex. The soul does the fine tuning and detail, and does some subtle influence throughout life. That quiet voice or that intuition at times.Suffering is thus temporary. Even the death of children or babies means the soul gets another chance.
[snip]You can start a new religion since your doctrines are significantly different than any religion that I know.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 01/10/2019 05:13:47[snip]You can start a new religion since your doctrines are significantly different than any religion that I know.Nothing that I have said has not been said by others at some time or another. I said that all religions have some truth. They should be more tolerant of each other.
Quote from: CliveG on 01/10/2019 05:43:51Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 01/10/2019 05:13:47[snip]You can start a new religion since your doctrines are significantly different than any religion that I know.Nothing that I have said has not been said by others at some time or another. I said that all religions have some truth. They should be more tolerant of each other.That's also true for currently existing religions. They picked parts of older religion's believes and their contemporary cultures and then combined to form new belief systems.
Hi there. Very interesting question. I would like to have some proof of God existing. But be careful with such questions. Some god believers can be angry )
The problem with proof, is conviction. What would you do if you found proof or was given proof?What would you think of yourself? Would you change and Worship? Would all your family and friends? What if you were aware of the truth and still envied this world? Many have.What if you showed this proof to the world? How would the world react? Proof and truth are denied all the time, it's a human only character. How many would ignore the spirit of the truth and become fanatical of obeying it.....their version of the truth. Knowing humans.....there will be versions of this proof.When the PROOF comes, a sword comes with it.
There is nothing in science that denies the existence of God. What denies the existence of God is the philosophical idea that things happen by chance.
The laws of Newton would be broken every time god acted.
I reckon God is allowing a slow thinning of the population to give humankind time to adjust to a new reality. The slow thinning is cell phone radiation degrading immune systems, increasing infertility and leading to a lower life expectancy.