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What is the real repulsive force of cosmological constant? "REVISED"
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Yes, both: Because the volume increase inside and outside while the molecules remain the same.
Super-heat and super-cold can cause normal state gaseous state of matter to liquefy, to solidify. It is more of fusion, forced fusion, rather than exactly attraction.. When returned to normal temperature, it returns from solid to liquid to gaseous.
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If it were "forced fusion" then we would have to put energy into it to solidify it. This is opposite to what happens in reality.
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Super-heating and super-cooling mean exerting more energy of opposite direction of temperature, say, re-super heating to 1 million C or cooling to close to absolute zero.
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Read your own post again and think carefully about what you just said.
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Jsaldea,
Try to get some sort of grip on reality.
It's currently 18 degrees in this room- not superheated or super cold. I happen to have some acetic acid and it's currently a slush of crystals in liquid.
If I had an open bottle of ethyl nitrite it would be boiling gently.
There's no need to talk about these silly things like "super heat" "super cold" or millions of degrees C. These changes take place at readily accessible temperatures.
As I said, the experiment with a car tyre proves that the molecules attract each other.
I also strongly suspect that you couldn't be bothered learning about entropy and enthalpy.
Do you realise that if someone gives you advice you should follow it?
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When you super-heat to 1 million C to fuse hydrogen and convert to helium, did we not put in more energy than normal energy?
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... when you open the valve of tire and release air, the air molecules attract one another? How can it attract one another when the volume expand making the same air molecules farther from one another, actually repulse one another air molecules.
..An open bottle of ethyl nitrite would be boiling gently.? Do you know Why?
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Do you know what temperature is a measure of?
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Jsaldea
Are you too lazy, too conceited or just too dumb to read and understand about entropy and enthalpy?
It must be something like that or you wouldn't still be writing "How can it attract one another when the volume expand making the same air molecules farther from one another, actually repulse one another air molecules.".
Re. "An open bottle of ethyl nitrite would be boiling gently.? Do you know Why?"
yes, I do its because of the favourable Gibbs free energy change that occurs on boiling. The point at which boiling becomes favourable is the point at which the entropy term (-T delta S) outweighs the enthalpy of vaporisation (delta H).
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Three normal states of matter on earth: solid, liquid, and gaseous. When it is on gaseous state, temperature can change the symmetry, the gaseous can become liquid and solid, but ultimately, it returns to gaseous. Why water turns to gaseous at 100C and turns to ice at 0.C s simply accepted but not deeply explained, as I see it. You call that attraction? Something about temperature, the energy disturbance that causes electro-magnetic disarray , causes such change, causes such bonding. Thus, temperature change that disturb the positive and negative arrangement of the matter, is itself, a pressure, positive and negative pressure. Thus, the bonding.
Why ethyl nitrite boils slightly? It is. simply volatile, its boiling temperature is above 0.C
I thought you know how volume affect temperature but it seems not.
I made revision on paragraphs 2 and 3 of main topic. Reiterating, the state of outer space is like gaseous state on earth. Galaxies are individually, on motion, like air molecules, repulsing one another. The reason why they repulse one another.. IT ALSO EXPLAIN WHY AIR MOLECULES AT AMBIENT TEMPERATURE, CANNOT BE COMPRESSED, EVEN IF SUPER-PRESSURE IS EXERTED.
I am intrigued by your entrophy (-delta S) and entrophy (delta H). Are not these positive and negative?
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I am intrigued by your entrophy (-delta S) and entrophy (delta H). "
Then LEARN ABOUT THEM.
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If there is an iron wall nearby and I have a magnetic ball, do you think it would be impossible for me to throw it so hard at the wall that it bounces away, despite the attraction?
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You still don’t see the point: the point is, even in entropy and enthalpy, the positive and negative operates.
I still cant get what you are trying to drive at, ….about that magnet ball…What is the point? Because it is a simple question...
But we are going off the topic, why galaxies are receding or better why galaxies are not ATTRACTING AND/OR COLLIDING WITH ONE ANOTHER.. ARE THE GALAXIES RECEDING, ACCELERATING?
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Yes, it is a simple question. What is your answer? I'm trying to get you to realise why a gas isn't a liquid and a liquid isn't a solid. Temperature.
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Jsaldea
If we are off topic it's because your first post included this absurd assertion "Hydrogen has proton (positive-directional) and electron (negative-directional). If there are 1 million hydrogen atoms, gaseous, in a sealed jar, all will be repulsing one another." when, in fact, they attract.
Anyway, Madidus' question still apply on a galactic scale.
Do you think I can bounce a ball off a wall?
Do you realise that the ball and the wall attract each other because of gravity.
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Quoted: ‘”If there are 1 million hydrogen atoms, gaseous, I a sealed jar, all will be repulsing one another” when, in fact, they attract”
Wrong: I have been illustrating that air molecules, for instance, super- pumped into air hydraulic jack in gasoline station, once valve is open, air will be released, as is, in normal gaseous state, the air molecules will be expanding, actually, AIR MOLECULES WILL BE REPULSING ONE ANOTHER.
In dirigible filled with hydrogen would not fly if the hydrogen content attract and bind one another.
As I reiterate: there are THREE states of matter on earth: solid, liquid, gaseous. The heavier elements usually become solid, the middle elements usually are liquid, and the lightest elements are gaseous state. IN THEIR AMBIENT STATE, either solid, liquid or gaseous element, temperature can change their symmetries, but these element will always return to their ambient state.
Reiterating, in outer space, the ambient state is plasma state, the galaxies are in like gaseous, floating, suspended in outer space, That is why galaxies, already cordoned with their force fields, such as all their outer shell with positive property, repulse one another.
How easy it is to fuse, in laboratory, hydrogen to form helium on earth, How successful so far is that most ambitious project to fuse hydrogen as unlimited source of energy?
Depending on the throw and strength of magnet o the ball, either the ball will stick to the wall due to magnetism or falls down as gravity takes over.
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How do you define ambient state?
Bored Chemist is right, and perhaps the example I gave with the magnetic ball was too complicated, I should have used this much simpler one:
If I have a basketball, the basketball and the floor are both attracted to one another, just like molecules are. But if I drop the basketball it doesn't just stick to the floor, it bounces. Its kinetic energy overcame the attraction. Which is why a gas isn't a liquid and a liquid isn't a solid.
This is why I asked you if you knew what temperature was a measure of, i'll take your lack of an answer as a "no". Temperature is a measure of the average kinetic energy of the molecules. Or in this case, the speed of the basketball.
What if I leave the basketball until it stops bouncing? Then we do indeed see that the basketball and the floor have bound to each other. Just like what happens when something is frozen.
Now what if there are a million basketballs in the building all bouncing around off each other at the speed of sound, and we open the door. The basketballs will fly out of the building until there's just as many basketballs flying around outside as there is inside. Or until the pressure equalizes. This is the effect that you wrongly interpret as repulsion.
It is probably best to learn at least a high school level of science understanding before trying to tell scientists they are wrong.
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"AIR MOLECULES WILL BE REPULSING ONE ANOTHER."
Putting it in CAPITALS doesn't make it true.
Madidus has already explained why.
Why don't you listen?
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Quoted,, “Now what if there are a million basketballs in the building all bouncing around off each other at the speed of sound, and we open the door. The basketballs will fly out of the building until there's just as many basketballs flying around outside as there is inside. Or until the pressure equalizes. This is the effect that you wrongly interpret as repulsion.”
You are wrong. Your illustration about the million basketballs bouncing as you open the door is wrong. You seem to forget that every free gaseous molecule has a force field, in normal atmospheric temperature.. Don’t you know that such force field of molecule expands, constrict. Inside the air hydraulic lift, an air molecule could be 1,000 times up constrict/compressed than in open atmosphere. If the size of air molecule is the size of basketball in open atmosphere, inside the hydraulic lift, the size of compressed air molecule could be the size of a mongo. Can a basketball do that? A basketball does not expand. But air molecule, once released from air hydraulic lift, expands ITSELF, AND REPULSE ONE ANOTHER MOLECULES, RE-THEIR FORCE FIELDS REPULSE ONE ANOTHER. THEY DO NOT ATTRACT NOR BIND IN NORMAL ATMOSPHERIC TEMPERATURE. THIS IS WHAT I MEAN. I do not need to elaborate about your concept of kinetic energy…speed of basketball? What causes the speed of basketball? Again we go back….
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Have to complete: What causes the speed of basketball? As the ball is bounced, the real bouncing is done inside the basketball:. the molecules are bouncing. And this causes the speed of basketball. What do you think, make sense?
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