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Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 20:49:15So quite clearly there simply a paradox .No there isn't.That's a picture of the ground, not the sky.It's like looking at the Mona Lisa and saying it's a paradox that you can't see the ocean.
So quite clearly there simply a paradox .
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 21:12:55Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:03:06Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 20:48:33Yet you pretend you haven't been answered.And air?Most air isn't made of atoms, it's made of moleculesI already pointed this out.Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/09/2017 21:19:30Anyway the air is mainly made from molecules, so it's about 99% irrelevant to the topic.So, once again, you got the answer, but didn't accept it.Do you not know what a molecule is? A molecule is a ''cluster'' of atoms held together by the chemical bond between atoms. Air molecules are more dense than an individual atom. Yet they are still transparent .
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:03:06Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 20:48:33Yet you pretend you haven't been answered.And air?Most air isn't made of atoms, it's made of moleculesI already pointed this out.Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/09/2017 21:19:30Anyway the air is mainly made from molecules, so it's about 99% irrelevant to the topic.So, once again, you got the answer, but didn't accept it.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 20:48:33Yet you pretend you haven't been answered.And air?
Yet you pretend you haven't been answered.
Anyway the air is mainly made from molecules, so it's about 99% irrelevant to the topic.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:16:43Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 21:12:55Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:03:06Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 20:48:33Yet you pretend you haven't been answered.And air?Most air isn't made of atoms, it's made of moleculesI already pointed this out.Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/09/2017 21:19:30Anyway the air is mainly made from molecules, so it's about 99% irrelevant to the topic.So, once again, you got the answer, but didn't accept it.Do you not know what a molecule is? A molecule is a ''cluster'' of atoms held together by the chemical bond between atoms. Air molecules are more dense than an individual atom. Yet they are still transparent . Why do you think density has anything to do with it?Lutetium tungstate is nearly 10 times dense than water- almost as dense as lead- but it is transparent.Lithium is opaque but is about half as dense as water.
I am looking at field strength density, not material density.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion., or were you referring to some "magic" made-up field you have invented?
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 22:01:45Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion.Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 22:01:45Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion., or were you referring to some "magic" made-up field you have invented?Then perhaps field density has nothing to do with it and I need to go down a different path of thinking and research. I would of thought the denser the medium , the more difficult it is for light to permeate through. You have a point glass is denser than air, back to the drawing board on my energy research.
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 22:06:56Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 22:01:45Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion.Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 22:01:45Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion., or were you referring to some "magic" made-up field you have invented?Then perhaps field density has nothing to do with it and I need to go down a different path of thinking and research. I would of thought the denser the medium , the more difficult it is for light to permeate through. You have a point glass is denser than air, back to the drawing board on my energy research. Why not base your research on actually learning what people have already found out.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 22:15:05Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 22:06:56Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 22:01:45Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion.Quote from: Bored chemist on 28/09/2017 22:01:45Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 21:44:01I am looking at field strength density, not material density.The electrostatic field in Lutetium tungstate is also very high- especially near the tungsten ion., or were you referring to some "magic" made-up field you have invented?Then perhaps field density has nothing to do with it and I need to go down a different path of thinking and research. I would of thought the denser the medium , the more difficult it is for light to permeate through. You have a point glass is denser than air, back to the drawing board on my energy research. Why not base your research on actually learning what people have already found out.What else do you think I do? I research, learn something. If that something as questions I need to ask about it, then I ask. Like with the blue sky. I 'see' no reason why the blue sky is blue ''your'' way. To me a scattering means ''spread'' out?
What else do you think I do?
Like with the blue sky. I 'see' no reason why the blue sky is blue ''your'' way.
To me a scattering means ''spread'' out?
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 22:18:15What else do you think I do? Make up dross.I know you do- I have seen lots of it.Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 22:18:15Like with the blue sky. I 'see' no reason why the blue sky is blue ''your'' way. Then you clearly have not tried learning it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scatteringhttp://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/BlueSky/blue_sky.htmlQuote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 22:18:15To me a scattering means ''spread'' out?That's exactly what it means in this context too.
Then answer this, what happens to light according to present information when it spreads out more? You can either consider the inverse square law or a longer wavelength.
If air doesn't interact with light then how does the air look funny above a hot fire or over the road ahead on a hot day? (see attached pix if you don't know what I'm talking about) wavey fire.jpg (8.52 kB . 275x183 - viewed 6370 times) wavey road.jpg (6.26 kB . 320x157 - viewed 6262 times)And in the picture, you shared of the Earth from space: I clearly see a fuzzy blue layer at the edge of the horizon (as pointed out by others, this IS the atmosphere), and also the "sky" above is black, even though it is clearly "daytime" whereas "daytime" without clouds means blue sky on Earth...
Quote from: Thebox on 28/09/2017 22:53:42Then answer this, what happens to light according to present information when it spreads out more? You can either consider the inverse square law or a longer wavelength. Given that scattering doesn't follow the inverse square law, nor generally lead to a longer wavelength, why would I consider those?
If air doesn't interact with light
(indeed, the Earth's magnetosphere is stretched out on the night side of the planet due to solar wind).
If Thebox's idea of the magnetic fields of the Sun and Earth pressing up against each other is to be believed
then it cannot explain a bluish-black sky at night because the night side of the planet is always facing away from the Sun.
It is not a matter of belief
Quote from: chiralSPO on 29/09/2017 20:00:24If air doesn't interact with light I have not said that air does not interact with light. I said air is transparent allows light to pass through it. So why would air scatter light when the light passes through it? I also question the word scattering which seems very opposite to a ''blue'' spectral wave-length which is a more compressed wave-length ?