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Here's some interesting questions/points:1. Who here's POIS started with masturbation? Was the masturbation excessive? 1+ times a day? The reason for this question is because for one, there is likely to have been one instance of masturbation or sex that triggered or started POIS. After the trigger, something definitely changed within the body and/or brain. If we find what that change was, we can possibly reverse it.2. There's currently a common theme upon this forum and POISCenter that the cognitive symptoms might be caused by a severe cerebral vasoconstriction for a period of time, and there has been positive results with certain vasodilators it seems. - It will be interesting to actually compare a brain blood flow test (TCD) before and after orgasm to confirm if there's actually a significant cerebral vasoconstriction, if so, at least there possibly can be effective ways to treat it - What type of bodily response is cerebral vasoconstriction controlled by? (pituitary? auto-immune? inflammatory? etc) It's possible that this particular system that controls this response has a problem, which allows us to see which supplements we can use to try to fix it
Hi, there is an interesting and good news for all the POIS suffers. After my failure of Neem, I started searching for the product which contain Amino acids, Proteins and complete set of nutrients. then I found Herbal life products. After using this products for 20 days, now in POIS reduced by 80% and brain congnitive symptoms, difficulty in speaking, heaviness in head has reduced severely and started having a normal life like every men. I think I am near to find a solution for POIS. I am taking following products of Herbal life. a) Nutritional Shake : Formula 1:Contents: Whey protein, soy Protein, Corn bran, stabilizer, INS 412, calcium, vitamins, potassium chloride, minerals, and other powders. 2) Protein powder containing Soy & Whey Protein.Please try this and provide your comments.
Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndrome
Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndromeNever seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site.
Quote from: kurtosis on 30/09/2012 10:44:54Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: newbielink:http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndrome [nonactive]Never seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site. I also want to point out that there's a number of comments about "hair loss due to increased testosterone" on this feelalike.com site where there's little or no documented evidence of hair loss by using those supplements. Vitamin C and Ginkgo are not known to promote hair loss. Whoever commented may just be losing hair because of other factors. It's not necessarily POIS nor POIS treatments that are causing that. The same goes for acne.
Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: newbielink:http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndrome [nonactive]Never seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site.
Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: newbielink:http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndrome [nonactive]
Quote from: kurtosis on 30/09/2012 10:53:50Quote from: kurtosis on 30/09/2012 10:44:54Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndromeNever seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site. I also want to point out that there's a number of comments about "hair loss due to increased testosterone" on this feelalike.com site where there's little or no documented evidence of hair loss by using those supplements. Vitamin C and Ginkgo are not known to promote hair loss. Whoever commented may just be losing hair because of other factors. It's not necessarily POIS nor POIS treatments that are causing that. The same goes for acne.I hadn't noticed that. I thought it was interesting to see that brain fog is the most common symptom (seems like a small sample). Reading through this forum it seems like people spend a lot of time talking about treatments, and that seems to be the focus of this feelalike.com site.
Quote from: kurtosis on 30/09/2012 10:44:54Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndromeNever seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site. I also want to point out that there's a number of comments about "hair loss due to increased testosterone" on this feelalike.com site where there's little or no documented evidence of hair loss by using those supplements. Vitamin C and Ginkgo are not known to promote hair loss. Whoever commented may just be losing hair because of other factors. It's not necessarily POIS nor POIS treatments that are causing that. The same goes for acne.
Quote from: nathan123 on 30/09/2012 07:01:05Hi, there is an interesting and good news for all the POIS suffers. After my failure of Neem, I started searching for the product which contain Amino acids, Proteins and complete set of nutrients. then I found Herbal life products. After using this products for 20 days, now in POIS reduced by 80% and brain congnitive symptoms, difficulty in speaking, heaviness in head has reduced severely and started having a normal life like every men. I think I am near to find a solution for POIS. I am taking following products of Herbal life. a) Nutritional Shake : Formula 1:Contents: Whey protein, soy Protein, Corn bran, stabilizer, INS 412, calcium, vitamins, potassium chloride, minerals, and other powders. 2) Protein powder containing Soy & Whey Protein.Please try this and provide your comments. Sorry Nathan but you seem to positively react to too many "supplements" so that points to you enjoying some placebo effect.
... I am taking following products of Herbal life ...
Quote from: kurtosis on 30/09/2012 10:44:54Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndromeNever seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site. Feelalike.com is a facebook of sorts for people with different healthcare problems to connect. The site allows you to share a picture of yourself and information such as city and age, but it doesn't give out email addresses or last names, in order to retain anonymity. I've been on the site for a while now, and enjoy using it. Feelalike was actually created by a really smart former POIS forum member (Willem), who cured himself of POIS through sublingual desensitization. His site is good because it's a)very user-friendly b) more personal c)aggregates data really well, like you saw in that Summary list of treatments page. Just like with facebook, each person has their own profile page, which includes a list of treatments that work/ don't work for you. The website then aggregates all that information into the very useful Summary page that ya'll just saw. So the site is just users chatting to each other and posting their own experiences - which is why nothing about the site is scientific and why you saw incorrect information on testosterone causing hair-loss. But the goal of the site, besides being a place to connect, is to give everyone a voice, while also aggregating data to provide a view of macro trends across all the members with POIS. There's only a handful of us on that site, but the more participants that join the more robust that Summary page would be.
Quote from: makrofag on 30/09/2012 10:02:18Quote from: nathan123 on 30/09/2012 07:01:05Hi, there is an interesting and good news for all the POIS suffers. After my failure of Neem, I started searching for the product which contain Amino acids, Proteins and complete set of nutrients. then I found Herbal life products. After using this products for 20 days, now in POIS reduced by 80% and brain congnitive symptoms, difficulty in speaking, heaviness in head has reduced severely and started having a normal life like every men. I think I am near to find a solution for POIS. I am taking following products of Herbal life. a) Nutritional Shake : Formula 1:Contents: Whey protein, soy Protein, Corn bran, stabilizer, INS 412, calcium, vitamins, potassium chloride, minerals, and other powders. 2) Protein powder containing Soy & Whey Protein.Please try this and provide your comments. Sorry Nathan but you seem to positively react to too many "supplements" so that points to you enjoying some placebo effect.Hi, initially few of my supplements i have tried its not worked for fewer days. But this Herbal life diet has changed my life. I am only not believing that I am out of POIS now. Yesterday I had four O's and there was no symptoms of POIS. Today morning I had little bit headche, but after sleeping for 2 more hours, it also gone. Now I am enjoying happiest moment in my life after 7 years without any problems. Believe me friends. Its true. Its true. I am out of POIS due to herbal life. Herbal life products essential designed to reduce carbo hydrates and fibres and it is one of the diet product. I don't know how it is helping me to cure POIS. But its true. Pl try it. You will get the result in just 7 days. Finally thanks god for curing my POIS. I also thanks to this forum. Upto last 6 years, I thought my problem is psychological one and from 8 months by browsing this forum, I came to know that it is related to o. From last 8 months, by inspiring from treatement innovated in this forum. I started taking / trying many supplements / medicine. Finally I got herbal life product and now I am totally free. Just go to website of herballife.com and see the how it scientifically works. Pl try. Its real, real. Try it.
Nathan do you still take neem?
Quote from: B_Daniel on 01/10/2012 04:32:43Quote from: kurtosis on 30/09/2012 10:44:54Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: newbielink:http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndrome [nonactive]Never seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site. Feelalike.com is a facebook of sorts for people with different healthcare problems to connect. The site allows you to share a picture of yourself and information such as city and age, but it doesn't give out email addresses or last names, in order to retain anonymity. I've been on the site for a while now, and enjoy using it. Feelalike was actually created by a really smart former POIS forum member (Willem), who cured himself of POIS through sublingual desensitization. His site is good because it's a)very user-friendly b) more personal c)aggregates data really well, like you saw in that Summary list of treatments page. Just like with facebook, each person has their own profile page, which includes a list of treatments that work/ don't work for you. The website then aggregates all that information into the very useful Summary page that ya'll just saw. So the site is just users chatting to each other and posting their own experiences - which is why nothing about the site is scientific and why you saw incorrect information on testosterone causing hair-loss. But the goal of the site, besides being a place to connect, is to give everyone a voice, while also aggregating data to provide a view of macro trends across all the members with POIS. There's only a handful of us on that site, but the more participants that join the more robust that Summary page would be. Hi All it's been a while since I've posted.... so this seems to be a good place to jump in!We're a POIS community of 400 or so. We can go where we want, share our data, compare ourselves to other illnesses, make lists and even run them through databases. There just so much that can be done!Some of the sites are more "user friendly" perhaps, others are more technical or "scientific", a little of everything! Unfortunately, where want want to go, where we Like to go, is not always the best thing for us, we see that every time we masturbate. LOLAnyways. Let's just suppose that we, somewhere here in this ever more diversifying community, compile, and sort, and use science and logic, developing theories and discarding bad ideas, find something that works..... MAYBE even a cure!?? WOW, we're home free!! Eventually the cure MAY trickle down to the straggling few who picked the wrong forum.At least 400 will be cured. 400. Here they can tell you how hard it is to acquire Google visibility. I can vouch for this. Yet, how hard has it been for each of us to find one of our sites? Most have worked for a couple of years at least to find a POIS home. So how many other POIS sufferers are there out there? A hand full at the site mentioned above or even the 400 in our combined forums are just a percentage. Are there 1000, 2000, in it's varying degrees and intensities, I'd say there could be maybe 100,000 POIS sufferers in the world, perhaps a third of those don't have computers.So my friends, we are helping ourselves. Is that enough? They tell me, NO, we have to get out there we have to let the world know! I wonder what the BIGGEST network of individuals is that can connect ALL the potential POIS patients in the world?The clue is the word "patient". Patient goes to doctor. As it stands now, we all know that this is not a functional interface for POIS. If we could improve that interface, we could reach many more patients. If we could improve this interface, we bring the treatment to the patient instead of a blank stare or another SSRI.Wouldn't you love to go to a doctor and say, "Gee doc., after I have sex I fell like crap for a week and a half", and have him say, "Ahh OK you have POIS, here take one of these two times a day and call me in 2 wks!" Doesn't that sort of ring a bell somewhere?HOW DO WE GET THERE? Chatting in a comfy user friendly armchair? Holding private science conferences. They probably make us feel better! All 400 of us. Well ,no. For some, it isn't an issue of being comfortable, and chatting. I mean that's nice and all, and maybe, just maybe, somehow the ideal that leads us to a cure will surface.But HOW DO WE GET IT TO THE DOCTORS? Some of us have gone in banging the door off the hinges armed with papers and internet links. The doctor thinks to himself, "Oh Gawd, here's another internet doctor... who's the doctor here". But we say, NO, we have to be firm. WE tell THEM what to do.... NOT!Who tells the doctors what to do? Have we ever asked that? THAT's the system we have to link up to.Doctors learn how to be doctors in the universities! But they don't really learn about all of the diseases. Just liek other professionals, they are connected to networks of study, and discoveries filter through their industry. Medical research produces papers that get to the doctors through their own internal source. These papers don't often come through the door in the hands of a patient, and if they do, they are not usually recognized as "official". They have to be validated, corroborated, need to be trusted by them and their peers. With all the lawsuits these days, the information has to be clean and sure.So let's not bark up the wrong tree. I know I grate on a lot of your nerves, always pushing and pestering for research. But it's the ONLY channel to the doctors, the doctors who treat ALL of the people in the world.Unfortunately it not one of the most pleasurable things to do.
Quote from: kurtosis on 30/09/2012 10:44:54Quote from: Jeffrey9 on 30/09/2012 01:58:42Thanks for your perspectives Kurtosis and alphaq. Found a pretty interesting overview, which appears to be contributed by individual POIS sufferers: newbielink:http://feelalike.com/conditions/postorgasmic_illness_syndrome [nonactive]Never seen it before. Weird that there's sometimes little feedback being provided by sufferers on the poiscenter.com forum but treatments are being described and rated on this feelalike.com site. Feelalike.com is a facebook of sorts for people with different healthcare problems to connect. The site allows you to share a picture of yourself and information such as city and age, but it doesn't give out email addresses or last names, in order to retain anonymity. I've been on the site for a while now, and enjoy using it. Feelalike was actually created by a really smart former POIS forum member (Willem), who cured himself of POIS through sublingual desensitization. His site is good because it's a)very user-friendly b) more personal c)aggregates data really well, like you saw in that Summary list of treatments page. Just like with facebook, each person has their own profile page, which includes a list of treatments that work/ don't work for you. The website then aggregates all that information into the very useful Summary page that ya'll just saw. So the site is just users chatting to each other and posting their own experiences - which is why nothing about the site is scientific and why you saw incorrect information on testosterone causing hair-loss. But the goal of the site, besides being a place to connect, is to give everyone a voice, while also aggregating data to provide a view of macro trends across all the members with POIS. There's only a handful of us on that site, but the more participants that join the more robust that Summary page would be.
Anyone tried Vinpocetine? It's supposed to have direct cerebral vasodilatory and incremental blood flow features
Quote from: alphaq on 03/10/2012 02:24:02Anyone tried Vinpocetine? It's supposed to have direct cerebral vasodilatory and incremental blood flow featuresYes. it might help you marginally, but not significantly. I've tried many different smart drugs, and ginkgo biloba is the most helpful of the batch.