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Counterpoints, your survey is a small fraction of the total 200 visitors, plus Waldinger!
It follows that 'physical exhaustion' is unlikely to be the predominant symptom.
Counterpoints, extreme exhaustion and physical fatigue is my understanding of the chief POIS symptom.
exhaustion and fatigue, both physical and mental are the main complaints I see repeatedly.
about 48-55% of responders list physical fatigue or exhaustion as a post orgasm symptom.
"bet on"...physical/mental, even emotional exhaustion/fatigue.
[The forum survey] constitutes over 10% of the posters here, and I believe it is representative.
I would point out that in my case--and perhaps for other people--the physical and mental fatigue can sometimes be hard to distinguish from one another. For instance, if in POIS stage, when I feel slowed down by brain fog, it can also feel like my body finds it hard to move as well--even though this may be partially from the mental fatigue.Also, (regarding the relation between POIS and premature ejaculation in Dr. Waldinger's paper), I do suffer from premature ejaculation. Others (including John21 and Chewbacca) also mentioned having this symptom.
Quote from: demografx on 11/01/2009 19:19:36"Girlwind" in particular is extremely knowledgeable in this area. She just recently completed $2,000 worth of hormone tests! Girlwind,I'm getting testing done for my anemia and while I'm there I'll request some hormonal testing. Can you tell me briefly what you tested for?
"Girlwind" in particular is extremely knowledgeable in this area. She just recently completed $2,000 worth of hormone tests!
thank you so much for your input guys! i'll be looking more into this!
As far as hormones.... oh boy! I tested EVERYTHING I could think of: thyroid tests (TSH, Free T3, Free T4, TPO-AB, Thyroglobulin AB, and Reverse T3), Free Cortisol and Cortisol, DHEA Sulphate, Pregnenolone, Free Testosterone, IGF-1 (that's growth hormone), FSH, LH, Estradiol, Progesterone, and Serotonin (which is the feel-good neurotrans-mitter). There are more tests I did as well: for Vitamin D 25 hydroxy (a big deficiency for many with CFS) and RBC Magnesium, as well as the complete metabolic panel, and a few others I can't remember.I hope that's helpful.
Been doing, iron, vitamin D and B-12 supplements for a month , plus red meat. Anemia is steadily going away, but feeling like a 'Meathead' with all the attendant heart congestion... Looking forward , with hope, of this period being over and returning to raw, organic veganism...with supplements this time!
Quote from: SteveD on 12/01/2009 07:32:30Been doing, iron, vitamin D and B-12 supplements for a month , plus red meat. Anemia is steadily going away, but feeling like a 'Meathead' with all the attendant heart congestion... Looking forward , with hope, of this period being over and returning to raw, organic veganism...with supplements this time!I've never been anemic, but I have had times where I've been in the lower end of normal for my hematocrit and iron.During those times I've taken a liquid iron enriching supplement called Floradix Iron and Herbs. Several alternativehealth professionals I know recommend it. It works really well to boost my iron back to normal in about 2 weeks. Also, I don't think that meat (provided its lean and grass-fed) will cause heart congestion, especially for those of uswho have a metabolic type that thrives on high protein. In fact, eating too little fat and protein can reek serious havocon one's health, as I learned in my 20's, when I was committed to being macrobiotic and eating NO meat whatsoever.My cholesterol at that time fell down to 107! And I thought this was a good thing, even though I was desperately illat the time. My father, who was a doctor, harped on me constantly about how UN-healthy it was to have such verylow cholesterol, and after about 8 years I began to believe him, and slowly added meat to my diet. I definitely felt better after I began to eat meat--free range and grass fed. Many aspects of my health have improved since then. Cholesterol is the key "ingredient" involved in creating all the steroid hormones in your body. So for those of uswho have hormonal levels that tend to be too low, it's not a good thing to let cholesterol fall to such low levels. I knew amedical doctor who used to get quite ballistic about "all those young vegetarian guys" that came to see her, "completelydrained and wasted" because they refused to eat meat. She basically reiterated the words of my father.I do know there are some people who can thrive on a vegetarian/vegan diet, but those have been a minority. They have a completely different metabolic type, and can get away with consuming a lot of raw fruits and vegetables with minimalprotein and no animal food. From what I've read on this forum, most of the people here who have experimented withtheir diets have found that lower carbs and higher protein work better for them. I'm curious if any have found being vegan to be healthy for them.
Quote from: girlwind on 12/01/2009 17:11:31Quote from: SteveD on 12/01/2009 07:32:30Been doing, iron, vitamin D and B-12 supplements for a month , plus red meat. Anemia is steadily going away, but feeling like a 'Meathead' with all the attendant heart congestion... Looking forward , with hope, of this period being over and returning to raw, organic veganism...with supplements this time!I've never been anemic, but I have had times where I've been in the lower end of normal for my hematocrit and iron.During those times I've taken a liquid iron enriching supplement called Floradix Iron and Herbs. Several alternativehealth professionals I know recommend it. It works really well to boost my iron back to normal in about 2 weeks. Also, I don't think that meat (provided its lean and grass-fed) will cause heart congestion, especially for those of uswho have a metabolic type that thrives on high protein. In fact, eating too little fat and protein can reek serious havocon one's health, as I learned in my 20's, when I was committed to being macrobiotic and eating NO meat whatsoever.My cholesterol at that time fell down to 107! And I thought this was a good thing, even though I was desperately illat the time. My father, who was a doctor, harped on me constantly about how UN-healthy it was to have such verylow cholesterol, and after about 8 years I began to believe him, and slowly added meat to my diet. I definitely felt better after I began to eat meat--free range and grass fed. Many aspects of my health have improved since then. Cholesterol is the key "ingredient" involved in creating all the steroid hormones in your body. So for those of uswho have hormonal levels that tend to be too low, it's not a good thing to let cholesterol fall to such low levels. I knew amedical doctor who used to get quite ballistic about "all those young vegetarian guys" that came to see her, "completelydrained and wasted" because they refused to eat meat. She basically reiterated the words of my father.I do know there are some people who can thrive on a vegetarian/vegan diet, but those have been a minority. They have a completely different metabolic type, and can get away with consuming a lot of raw fruits and vegetables with minimalprotein and no animal food. From what I've read on this forum, most of the people here who have experimented withtheir diets have found that lower carbs and higher protein work better for them. I'm curious if any have found being vegan to be healthy for them.I haven't eaten meat for over 4 years. I still eat eggs and dairy though. I used to have chest pains but I haven't had any in the last four years. I get enough vegetable protein so not only am healthy but have gained about 30 lbs. and a lot of that muscle.
ALPHA 20 C: I've been away for a while. I know it is VERY EXPENSIVE, that's why I've stopped taking it. Thank you for your feedback, all. Nowadays, I test Tribulus Terrestris. It helps physical strength. Somebody else has any experience? Keep on moving...Best regards,Coreman.
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