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sometimes internally for diseases such as tropical sprue, epilepsy,
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 05:37:03God watched as he let man's freedom to kill himself do just that.And then God decided to kill even more.Nice guy, isn't He?Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 05:43:11I am on oxygen anyway so if things get tough I do not need to go to hospital.True.I'm in reasonably good heath- luck me.If I'm taken ill in such a way that my lungs are unable to extract enough oxygen from air then (with luck) I will get taken to hospital and supplied with pure oxygen.That gives me roughly 5 fold more "leeway" on oxygen capacity.If you are already on oxygen and you get the same level of lung damage, you will die.So, yes, you will need to go to hospital- specifically the morgue.Being on oxygen already is not a benefit in this case.
God watched as he let man's freedom to kill himself do just that.
I am on oxygen anyway so if things get tough I do not need to go to hospital.
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:13:16sometimes internally for diseases such as tropical sprue, epilepsy,Their use for epilepsy (which is not an infection) shows that they didn't really know what they were doing.
The demographic of the victims of spanish flu, on one hand and corvid 19 , on the other is instructive.One killed mainly the "fit young adults" the other mainly the elderly.Which shows that they are rather different conditions (albeit with some similarity).That's supported by the fact that they are different families of viruses.So why do you keep trying to conflate them?Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:13:16With the development of modern antibiotics in the 1940s, the use of silver as an antimicrobial agent diminished.There's a reason for that; it's not as good.
With the development of modern antibiotics in the 1940s, the use of silver as an antimicrobial agent diminished.
Have you considered that without God the world could be far worse off?
We can blame Satan,
Rather than try to find contradiction and tear down institutions whose overall impact has been beneficial, why not be more tolerant and accept the benefits?
As antibiotics become less effective and silver has not lost any effectiveness
You do know that the immune system is reduced when treating a virus with an antibiotic
You may be right. It was hit and miss. Perhaps it had a small effect by altering the ionic balance in the neurons slightly
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:29:28You do know that the immune system is reduced when treating a virus with an antibioticNobody with appropriate education treats viral infections with antibiotics.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 08/03/2020 10:33:12Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:29:28You do know that the immune system is reduced when treating a virus with an antibioticNobody with appropriate education treats viral infections with antibiotics.Go to your local GP and complain about a chest infection and see if you first get tested before you get your antibiotic. Does the doctor even ask the questions to differentiate the bacterial from viral?However, the bottom line is that you agree.
Go to your local GP and complain about a chest infection and see if you first get tested before you get your antibiotic.
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:22:46Have you considered that without God the world could be far worse off?Have you considered that , if He cared about us it would, necessarily be be better off, but it isn't.Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:22:46We can blame Satan,But, as in the crusades or ISIS or the Nazi persecution of Jews, it's generally more sensible to either blame God, or leave Him out of it.Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:22:46Rather than try to find contradiction and tear down institutions whose overall impact has been beneficial, why not be more tolerant and accept the benefits?And... once again... get yourself a mirror and stop trying to undermine science.Then have a look at which side of history religion has been on.By telling Christians that they are in God's image, it promoted racism.By publicising Leviticus, it encouraged encourages homophobia.And by telling people where to get their slaves it set back the anti slavery movement.And by proclaiming stupid nonsense about witches (among other things) it set back the sex equality movement.So, yes, sure; look to "institutions whose overall impact has been beneficial,".You will not find the churches there.
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:41:52Go to your local GP and complain about a chest infection and see if you first get tested before you get your antibiotic.I get told it's probably viral.I might get offered antibiotics to prevent secondary (bacterial) infection.Did you not understand why antibiotics are sometimes prescribed in those circumstances?
The same point I made about masks. Choose your source and use common sense.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/is-coronavirus-mutating-into-a-more-deadly-strain-face-masks-covid-19-myths-bustedClaim: ‘Face masks don’t work’Wearing a face mask is certainly not an iron-clad guarantee that you won’t get sick – viruses can also transmit through the eyes and tiny viral particles, known as aerosols, can penetrate masks. However, masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone (although others have found lower levels of effectiveness).If you are likely to be in close contact with someone infected, a mask cuts the chance of the disease being passed on. If you’re showing symptoms of coronavirus, or have been diagnosed, wearing a mask can also protect others. So masks are crucial for health and social care workers looking after patients and are also recommended for family members who need to care for someone who is ill – ideally both the patient and carer should have a mask.
I educate myself ....
The current popular history of the Churches emphasizes the faults and diminishes the benefits. The global rise of anti-Christians in the media adds greatly to the distortions.And a biased emotive mind just makes the overall picture worse. Either you educate yourself in a objective way, or you keep spouting the same anti-religious (mostly anti-Christian) rhetoric.
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:47:11The current popular history of the Churches emphasizes the faults and diminishes the benefits. The global rise of anti-Christians in the media adds greatly to the distortions.And a biased emotive mind just makes the overall picture worse. Either you educate yourself in a objective way, or you keep spouting the same anti-religious (mostly anti-Christian) rhetoric.And, when you have finished wittering meaninglessly, it will still be the case that the churches encouraged or supported racism, sexism, homophobia, slavery and so on.There is no evidence that the churches per se did much good.There is plenty that they did harm.
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 10:39:35The same point I made about masks. Choose your source and use common sense.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/07/is-coronavirus-mutating-into-a-more-deadly-strain-face-masks-covid-19-myths-bustedClaim: ‘Face masks don’t work’Wearing a face mask is certainly not an iron-clad guarantee that you won’t get sick – viruses can also transmit through the eyes and tiny viral particles, known as aerosols, can penetrate masks. However, masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone (although others have found lower levels of effectiveness).If you are likely to be in close contact with someone infected, a mask cuts the chance of the disease being passed on. If you’re showing symptoms of coronavirus, or have been diagnosed, wearing a mask can also protect others. So masks are crucial for health and social care workers looking after patients and are also recommended for family members who need to care for someone who is ill – ideally both the patient and carer should have a mask.That rather misses the point.Yes, a mask is a good idea if you are with someone who is infected.But virtually nobody is actually infected.South Africa currently has 3 reported cases (if I read the news correctly) in a population of 60 million.