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Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion ! Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...
Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer? By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.
Quote from: demografx on 27/05/2012 03:48:52Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." [reply about Nietzsche totally off topic to POIS...]
Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger."
True but Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing...
Quote from: RemovePois on 26/05/2012 04:47:20Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer? By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE. I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. Ior anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement. The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms. Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber NaturalsIngredients:Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mgPumpkin Oil 480mgZinc 15mgTomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mgSeleium 55mcgI am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day. No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)! Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/
Quote from: Habibou on 27/05/2012 12:19:34Even if you only read the forum, it is important you register so that we can know who have POIS symptoms and so that we have more weight on the opinion ! Amijgoro, I am exactly on the same situation as you concerning the state of POIS : I am in a constant one POIS now 2 years. I just started to take pills to increase my level of dopamin (under the controle of doctors as alaways) since I found out my level was very low. It was one of the only standard that failed so much...I encourage all the silent readers - i was one of them during several months - to register and share their case. You´ll feel very good after doing it!!
Quote from: RD on 27/05/2012 08:40:29Quote from: demografx on 27/05/2012 03:48:52Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical, e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics. Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ... Quote from: Friedrich NietzscheThe invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me. Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about. A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it.
Quote from: demografx on 27/05/2012 03:48:52Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical, e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics. Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ... Quote from: Friedrich NietzscheThe invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html
The invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”
Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )
Quote from: kurtosis on 27/05/2012 11:59:47Quote from: RD on 27/05/2012 08:40:29Quote from: demografx on 27/05/2012 03:48:52Nietzsche has words of comfort: "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." The statement "That which does not kill me makes me stronger." is nonsensical, e.g. a non-fatal brain injury which rendered someone into a vegetative state would not make them stronger.BTW Nietzsche suffered from dementia and was rather keen on narcotics. Anyone with a with chronic illness promoting the ideas of this demented junkie is shooting themselves in the foot ... Quote from: Friedrich NietzscheThe invalid is a parasite on society. In a certain state it is indecent to go on living. To vegetate on in cowardly dependence on physicians and medicaments after the meaning of life, the right to life, has been lost ought to entail the profound contempt of society.”http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_invalid_is_a_parasite_on_society-in_a_certain/323161.html Nietzsche was also speaking with self-loathing and contempt for his own dependent state. He said some sensible and clever things and some that were ridiculous and/or fascistic. If a lunatic makes a good point and it gives someone a useful perspective then that's seems fine to me. Also, I'd dispute that a quotation needs to be logical, consistent and well-formed to be useful. When I read that quotation by Nietzsche I think about the possibility that my perspective has been changed in some beneficial way by suffering from POIS. I believe it has. I understand that a person's life can be interrupted or upset by something external that appears to resist every attempt to treat it and is not recognised by the medical community. That was a hard lesson to learn and it's given me many insights into the limitations of medical knowledge and sympathy for those I may have been too busy and too arrogant to care about. A friend of mine is a psychologist and he makes a good argument that great human endeavour is driven by our reaction to trauma. He argues that any form of achievement (sport, intellectually, music etc.) represents a thousand battles (metaphorically) with the traumas stored in our primitive brains. So I can understand what Demo is getting at. He's done what he has in life in spite of POIS and is driven to help us on this forum because the trauma of the POIS experience drives him to improve things for others. If Nietzsche helps provide that perspective then so be it. kurtosis, BEAUTIFUL reply. Expresses extremely well what we're exactly all about.Thank you!
Quote from: demografx on 27/05/2012 21:24:57Some visitors have nothing intelligent to say about POIS, so they resort to nitpicking tangential matters. LOL. Kinda like ad hominems, but less clever : - )All this really is an expression of the difference here on this thread. Many other threads are more intent on proving who's right, who has the better catch phrase, showing how cult they are, arguing points that are pointless.Here it's a serious group trying to resolve a life wrecking ailment. There is no place for troublemakers or egos, where we are just trying to get to the bottom of a real problem.We have a delicate balance and have worked hard at maintaining it, with lives that become unraveled in an instant by some ignorant bully ([generically speaking] and whether they realize it or not).Not to mention the fact that there is a good deal of traffic from real medical investigators recompiling information on thei little know illness. It behooves us to keep the chaff OUT.
Quote from: RemovePois on 26/05/2012 04:47:20Could the premature ejaculation have something to do with POIS symptoms? I am wondering if most of us have premature ejaculation problem? If an O occurs within 15-20 seconds, could that be causing POIS somehow compared to most of the other people who can sustain longer? By the way, you can try TROJAN extended pleasure condom, which apparently prevents premature ejaculation problem.I have had PE as long as I can remember. Even the times in my life that I do not expericnce POIS I continued to have PE. I am once again considering that POIS is caused by an inflammation of the the prostate (for whatever reason). I had tried Saw Palmetto in the past with no benefits but I am now taking a prostate formula called "Super Prostate". I have had one NE since I began this and did not experience any POIS. Also, I am speculating that it may have reduced my PE, time will tell. I say this because I have had no NEs after taking it for a couple of weeks. For anyone struggling with unwanted NEs you could try a prostate supplement. The idea that POIS is caused by prostate inflammation sounds logical to me as anti-inflammatory foods reduce or eliminate my symptoms. Here are the details of the supplement I am taking:Extra Strength Super Prostate by Webber NaturalsIngredients:Saw Palmetto Extract (85-95%) 320mgPumpkin Oil 480mgZinc 15mgTomato Extract (6% lycopene) 5mgSeleium 55mcgI am normally taking the recommended dose at one per day. The night after I first started taking them I had an NE and for the next few days took two per day. No POIS (without taking anti-inflammatory foods)! Also of note: testosterone reduces inflammation.http://fitlode.com/2011/08/04/the-anti-inflammatory-powers-of-testosterone/
Kurtosis, you express yourself wonderfully!!!! :-)