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You just can't resist breaking your promises, can you?
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 27/12/2013 17:03:00What extraordinary evidence has materialism been delivering for its extraordinary claims , regarding the nature of reality ?You're the one claiming an 'immaterial something' extra; the burden of proof for that is on you.
What extraordinary evidence has materialism been delivering for its extraordinary claims , regarding the nature of reality ?
I can't rather resist the temptation,desire and urge to make you realise
the materialist false mainstream 'scientific world view "
Quotethe materialist false mainstream 'scientific world view " Sorry, Don, repeating this mantra doesn't give it meaning. It may make you happy to do so, but it's a waste of your talent. There is no "scientific world view". Science is a process, not a philosophy.
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 27/12/2013 18:07:27I can't rather resist the temptation,desire and urge to make you realise Welcome back Don.............., The only way to make us realize anything is for you to present evidence, which to date, you have not!You are the author of this thread and it is incumbent upon you to provide the evidence in support of your views, not for us to prove you wrong! If you ever expect any of us to agree with you, you'll need to provide some tangible evidence. And not just copied and pasted excerpts from spurious sources. The reason material evidence is necessary is; None of us is able to read your, or for that matter, any one else's mind. You can't just declare that your evidence exists in your own mind, you must be able to share it with others and that takes tangible material evidence. Can you at least understand that simple reasoning?
Your wrong Don, you started the thread, its your theoryits down to you to prove it.
Well,thanks, appreciate indeed : just try to answer the simple question i did ask dlorde to address then :
Will somebody here,please, try to prove the following "empirical fact " to be "true " ?:I am not gonna be tired of repeating this same simple question over and over again, untill i get an answer to that , hopefully : According to the mainstream materialist "scientific world view " : "all is matter , including the mind" , and hence the mind is in the brain, or the mind is just brain activity = that's a "scientific fact " : try to prove the latter to be "true " as such then, since all sciences have been taking this 'scientific fact ",or rather this core materialist belief assumption ,regarding the nature of reality , for granted as an "empirical fact " , for so long now, thanks to materialism thus ...Thanks , appreciate indeed .Nice weekend .
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 27/12/2013 18:57:03Well,thanks, appreciate indeed : just try to answer the simple question i did ask dlorde to address then :As the author of this thread, it is incumbent upon you to offer any evidence, not for us to do so. All the evidence we understand suggests that you are wrong. And here is why:To prove your position you must prove the existence of consciousness without a brain. If you can do that, you may be on to something. Can you do that Don....?Here's your chance to deliver evidence, all you need to do is provide good evidence that consciousness can exist without the instrument of the brain. Go for it Don........ We're all waiting..................................
And of course consciousness and brain or body are inseparable ,in this life at least , and do have some sort of mutual correlations , interactions or whatever with each other .....What has that to do with anything ?...............
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 27/12/2013 19:19:37Will somebody here,please, try to prove the following "empirical fact " to be "true " ?:I am not gonna be tired of repeating this same simple question over and over again, untill i get an answer to that , hopefully : According to the mainstream materialist "scientific world view " : "all is matter , including the mind" , and hence the mind is in the brain, or the mind is just brain activity = that's a "scientific fact " : try to prove the latter to be "true " as such then, since all sciences have been taking this 'scientific fact ",or rather this core materialist belief assumption ,regarding the nature of reality , for granted as an "empirical fact " , for so long now, thanks to materialism thus ...Thanks , appreciate indeed .Nice weekend .Evidently you're not as smart as I thought you were. Who's thread is this anyway?It's your thread Don....................You provide your evidence!Can consciousness exist without the brain?
Quote from: DonQuichotte on 27/12/2013 19:26:57And of course consciousness and brain or body are inseparable ,in this life at least , and do have some sort of mutual correlations , interactions or whatever with each other .....What has that to do with anything ?...............Because consciousness is brain dependent, and the brain is material, you can't have consciousness without the brain. Therefore, consciousness is material dependent. Now,.......argue about that!
Don you keep saying "in this life at least". You have religion then ?.no wonder you cant see the wood for the trees.