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I didn't hear about any law of physics, according to which it is impossible to concentrate EM radiation with a lense or concave mirror - can you please tell me, what exactly is that law?
near-field effects and not electromagnetic waves.
It's only a matter of scale - the bigger is the radius of a lense/mirror, the more EM waves will be concentrated in one point, resulting in higher intensity... What makes it theoretically impossible?
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In shortcut, you will be able to see your bacteria in great details, if the background light will have blue color. However light with a green color will giive you much worse results and internal structures of that bacteria no longer will be visible as clarly as with the blue light. And with the red light, the entire bacteria will become barely visible (or even completely invisible if the wavelenght will get large enough in relation to the size of observed bacteria)... Shortly speaking, the shorter will be the wavelenght (higher frequency) of light used by your microscope, the better results you'll get...
Inside a 1D tube, which is 100cm long, you can succesfully trap as much as 1 photon of 100cm wavelenght and/or 2 photons at 100//2cm wavelenght + 3 photons at 100/3cm wavelenght + 4 photons at 100/4cm wavelenght and so on.
Only this way we'll be able to get a standing wave, which can be amplified through constructive interference with itself
Sadly, everything I see, is some guy, who claims to have authority in science, while making claims which are 100% false.
Because it just so happens that I'm a guy, who doesn't believe in your supreme authority
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 06/08/2021 23:12:36Inside a 1D tube, which is 100cm long, you can succesfully trap as much as 1 photon of 100cm wavelenght and/or 2 photons at 100//2cm wavelenght + 3 photons at 100/3cm wavelenght + 4 photons at 100/4cm wavelenght and so on.An interesting conjecture.Consider my microwave oven.It runs at 2.4GHz with a corresponding wavelength of about 12.5 cmEach photon carries about 1.6E-24 Joules.It is rated for 900 watts.So it produces about 5.6 E 26 photons per second.and it's about 15 inches wide So the cavity is 3 wavelengths long.According to you it can therefore contain 3 photons of microwave radiation at any given time.But in reality, about 10^27 photons pass through it every second.The transit time is about 1.25 nanoseconds for light to travel from one side to the other.So, at any one time, there must be about 7E15 photons in it.And yet, you say there can only be 3Can you explain the disparity?
It's because the photon number is a function of probability and not the amplitude of electric/magnetic componentds.
Thing is, that those 6 photons merge into 3 photns of the same wavelenght, but with twice as big electric/magnetic amplitude due to constructive interference of EM waves.
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 07/08/2021 22:42:20It's because the photon number is a function of probability and not the amplitude of electric/magnetic componentds.You seem to be trying to say that having more photons does not correspond to a higher amplitude of the EM radiation.That's not plausible.
[You say that you can't have more than n photons in a box if the length of the box is n times the wavelength.But When I point out that, for a microwave oven cavity n is 3 but you have about 10^16 photons at any time, you post a reply that simply makes no sense.Are you able to clarify it?
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 07/08/2021 22:42:20Thing is, that those 6 photons merge into 3 photns of the same wavelenght, but with twice as big electric/magnetic amplitude due to constructive interference of EM waves.That's just not possible,The energy of a photon is given by e=hf.So, if you combined 2 photons into one, you have twice the energy and you would have half the wavelength.
This is the way in which most green "lasers" work.They frequency double the IR emission at 1064 nm to produce 532 nm green light.
It's because the owen is a 3D object - I'm speaking about 1 dimension only (momentun/propagation)
Are you saying that your authority is superior, compared to those people?
Ahh - so it workis in the n2 mode.
Now tell me, if that laser emits as well twice as many photons at 1064nm? No?
I wonder, what happened with them...?
increae the power output for that wavelenght?
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 04/08/2021 01:08:04I didn't hear about any law of physics, according to which it is impossible to concentrate EM radiation with a lense or concave mirror - can you please tell me, what exactly is that law?I never heard of such a law either.It seem that you made it up.Why did you introduce it?
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 04/08/2021 02:22:11near-field effects and not electromagnetic waves.Please explain how the near field propagates without using EM waves.
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 04/08/2021 01:08:04In shortcut, you will be able to see your bacteria in great details, if the background light will have blue color. However light with a green color will giive you much worse results and internal structures of that bacteria no longer will be visible as clarly as with the blue light. And with the red light, the entire bacteria will become barely visible (or even completely invisible if the wavelenght will get large enough in relation to the size of observed bacteria)... Shortly speaking, the shorter will be the wavelenght (higher frequency) of light used by your microscope, the better results you'll get...In fact the resolution is less than the wavelength "When optimally used, confocal microscopes may reach resolutions of 180 nm"so, as seems to often be the case, you are flat out wrong.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4379090/
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 04/08/2021 01:08:04 It's only a matter of scale - the bigger is the radius of a lense/mirror, the more EM waves will be concentrated in one point, resulting in higher intensity... What makes it theoretically impossible?Actual science, rather than your straw man version.You may find this educational.https://what-if.xkcd.com/145/
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 08/08/2021 00:06:31Are you saying that your authority is superior, compared to those people?I can't access that page, so I can't comment on them.But I say that the conservation of energy has more authority than they do, and what you propose, breaks it.
Incidentally, if you were somehow right about 2 photons magically combining to make a "superphoton" of some sort, then it wouldn't matter.The combination would- by the mass and energy conservation laws- have twice the mass of an ordinary photon.And if I continued to add photons to it it would get more and more massive until it became a black hole.
Your idea- if it wasn't nonsense- would make the "kugelblitz".easier to make- no massive mirror ball needed. You seem to think the photons will somehow "stick" together.
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 08/08/2021 00:06:31It's because the owen is a 3D object - I'm speaking about 1 dimension only (momentun/propagation)OK, 3 dimensions raises the total of 6 photons, compared to the real value which is about 10^16Feel free to "solve" this problem with your view on how the world works.Just remember that I will apply whatever process you need, to the case of the mirrored sphere.If you can explain an arbitrarily large number of microwave photons in my oven, then , by the same process, I can get an arbitrarily large number of photons into the mirror sphere.And even if you can't explain it, I will simply point out that I can get a lot more than 1 or 2 photons in a cavity and you are wrong.
But in this case It was you who said, that it's theoretically impossible, to create a black hole by concentrating EM waves in one point of space with a lense or concave mirror
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Quote from: CrazyScientist on 16/08/2021 02:51:27But in this case It was you who said, that it's theoretically impossible, to create a black hole by concentrating EM waves in one point of space with a lense or concave mirrorThat is impossible.
But I asked why you made up this nonsense.
Nobody had said you can't concentrate light with a lens or mirror, had they?.Please explain where you got that silly idea from.
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 16/08/2021 02:51:27Like this:So... with a wavelength and frequency.
But I asked you to show "how the near field propagates without using EM waves.".
So, I'm asking you again - though, perhaps you would like to simply accept that near and far field optics still use waves.
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 16/08/2021 02:51:27This part is most important for this subject:No it isn't.This is."The Fock state fulfills the inequality < , showing a variance smaller than the Glauberstate. Such sub-Poisson statistics cannot be described by classical electromagnetic theory;thus such light is classified as non-classical light. The figure below shows the photon numberdistribution for two Fock states. Light emitters with a Fock state n = 1 are called single photonsources, since they can only emit one single photon at a time."because it makes it clear that Fock states are "special".There's no reason to say that that model applies to the photons in a box.
Quote from: CrazyScientist on 16/08/2021 02:51:27TBCIt's probably better if you don't continue until we fix the problems with your current understanding.
Moreover, similarly to the cavity used by the CNRS group, excitations of the resonator are microwave photons. These essentially one-dimensional cavities have a small mode volume, resulting in a large electric field per photon.
...In fact, for lossless mirrors the reflectivity vanishes at the resonance condition δ = 2nπ. This is a surprising result: no matter how good the mirrors, they are effectively transparent at the resonance condition...