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The only place in the universe that is = to 0 is inside a BH. All other places zero point energy is c. There is 0 time in BH. All other places have different energy states which regulate reaction rates. Muons going near c have the least amount of fundamental energy and near maximum amount of kinetic energy. So the reaction rate is slow and the traveling distance much greater. More Available fundamental energy of c increases reaction time (sped up) and follows our measurement of time as a reaction rate. The reaction rate is measured to be the same in every frame. The completion of reaction is different in different frames.0 is a dead end in the relativity maze.Time is a rate of motion only. Available motion is c, the maximum total available motion.
Very funny diagrams, but yes, I agree, everything is relative to the medium that by default it can be asigned zero velocity. The state of motion of the medium has no efect whatsoever.If claim that the medium exists or an absolute space exists, you have to provide the reasons for clock rates variation. My model demonstrates these effects in clock rates. It does not allow sub-luminal propagation of fundamental waves, therefore time has a single, constant pace. Only complex systems (atoms, nuclei or 1/2 spin particles) can have lower velocities or rest mass.
Quote from: Nilak on 08/02/2017 18:09:38Very funny diagrams, but yes, I agree, everything is relative to the medium that by default it can be asigned zero velocity. The state of motion of the medium has no efect whatsoever.If claim that the medium exists or an absolute space exists, you have to provide the reasons for clock rates variation. My model demonstrates these effects in clock rates. It does not allow sub-luminal propagation of fundamental waves, therefore time has a single, constant pace. Only complex systems (atoms, nuclei or 1/2 spin particles) can have lower velocities or rest mass.This is the thing I find funny, clocks and a rate of time is defined by us, but in reality , the clock and the rate exist in time and have nothing what so ever to do with time. It does not matter what rate the clock ticks at, the same amount of time passes for the slow or fast rate. The overwhelming evidence for this is that any measurement past 0t becomes instantaneous history, This holds true at any rate/speed of time. You could count time slow or count it fast, but the fact remains as stated . p.s there is nothing funny about the diagrams, the diagrams are of absolute truths.
the clock and the rate exist in time and have nothing what so ever to do with time. It does not matter what rate the clock ticks at, the same amount of time passes for the slow or fast rate.
No matter what the tick rate of energy state you are in everything is in the same present.
You need to define time for this statement to be accurate. A frame where the clocks tick slower you age slower and your reaction rate is slower. If a billion years was a second in a different frame you would not notice the difference.
Defining time is a tough one GOC, I can clearly see what it is but explaining it and defining it is difficult. All I can say for now is that time and space are the same thing, without time and space nothing can exist or any event can exist. Everything needs space to exist in or happen in, without space there can be no motion, maybe...hmmmm.....defining time - time is that which allows motion within itself.
added- how can i explain this I ask myself? For something to age and ''travel'' through an amount of time,
there has to be something that doesn't age that the thing of age has aged relative too.
Things age relative to space, space is ageless and time is timeless.
Quote from: Thebox on 10/02/2017 03:33:55Defining time is a tough one GOC, I can clearly see what it is but explaining it and defining it is difficult. All I can say for now is that time and space are the same thing, without time and space nothing can exist or any event can exist. Everything needs space to exist in or happen in, without space there can be no motion, maybe...hmmmm.....defining time - time is that which allows motion within itself. Finally you get it. You need to think about the parameters of the words you use. Time=Motion=EnergyQuoteadded- how can i explain this I ask myself? For something to age and ''travel'' through an amount of time, You do not travel through time!!!! Motion is time and always in the present.Quotethere has to be something that doesn't age that the thing of age has aged relative too. Yes of course and that is energy c. This allows relativity. Time=Motion=EnergyQuoteThings age relative to space, space is ageless and time is timeless. Yes and c energy is a constant that move electrons at different distances in GR we view as dilation of energy c. Energy c is always the same but distance is not the same in GR. In SR it is a ratio with energy c equivalent to dilation in GR. The electron travels through energy c using vector speed reducing the available total energy c in distance traveled. These issues reduce the tick rate in clocks.Now lets work on your space clarity issue. If the sun were to stop shining would we see it when it happened?
Time does exist as entity within the void, although it's still the same process Goc explained...
No, motion is not time, motion is timing in time. The very simple premise for this , is that time still exists in a void. Imagine a void, a vast emptiness, you can't imagine this void without time passing for the void. There is no motion in a void sir, so would you suggest there was no time in a void?
Quote from: Thebox on 10/02/2017 21:17:39No, motion is not time, motion is timing in time. The very simple premise for this , is that time still exists in a void. Imagine a void, a vast emptiness, you can't imagine this void without time passing for the void. There is no motion in a void sir, so would you suggest there was no time in a void?You think of time as a big mystery. It is not. What you call a void is also the space within mass as outside of mass. Electrons do not move themselves. Energy within the void spins at c to move electrons. If there were no energy in space we could not move. Your current understanding of time is magic, it just exists. Motion does not just exist. c is the total zero point energy as shown to us by relativity. c - Electron vector motion = total c. If total rest in space were possible the electron cycle would be at c. Energy = c zero point energy * c electron cycle = time measurement. It is the gamma term that changes the cycle distance for the electron. It is energy density of zero point energy that controls reaction rates. The reaction rate in every frame is relative to that frames tick rate of time. Physics is the same in every frame except a BH frame which is outside of relativity. This is the issue that Alex understands as an abstract concept. Abstract concepts are very difficult for most people. Einstein and Lorentz were amazing in my opinion. Relativity is an abstract construct that follows all observations so far. So you can maintain your illusion that time is a magical mystery if you like but for me its simply a reaction rate of motion relative to c as energy.
The void of space refers to nearly massless but there is a spectrum of energy moving through the void which includes light. Please do not take this wrong or an insult but many people with autism maintain a literal understanding with words.
noun1.a completely empty space."the black void of space"synonyms: gap, empty space, space, blank space, blank, vacuum, lacuna, hole, cavity, chasm, abyss, gulf, pit, hiatus; More''
Quote from: Alex Dullius Siqueira on 11/02/2017 15:28:40Time does exist as entity within the void, although it's still the same process Goc explained...No it is not the same, Goc explains time=motion=EThere is no motion or E in a void , by definition a void is empty of everything except spacial volume.
The universe does not care what either you or google believes. Nor what I believe. Google is not the authority of the universe. You believe in magic if you think you view all things in the present.