[the grouve]

                      Little Red Riddinghood


I have heard that 'little Red Riddinghood' the story was about sex.

On thinking about it I actually believe it is about something else. here is the basic story.

So the grandmother is sick, and the Grand daughter sets out to go and help her. The wolf tries to stop her doing so, and the woodcutter comes to the little girls assistance.

My idea is this, The grandmaother represents the old way, and the old way is dieing. So those that want the old way to remain(riddinghood parents), send someone small on a secret mission(Ms Riddinghood), to find out what's wrong and bring the old way back to health.

Some oppose going back to the old way(the wolf) and on seeing those with a secret missions they plot to stop them, and at the crunch the poor working class(woodcutter) come to the aid of the old way.

So the story I see is actually about revolution, harmony, duty but, absolutely nothing to do with sex.

In some way Gandhi, I believe, was a 'Little red Riddinghood'.

[Chemistry4me]

What on earth does this have to do with science? [][]

[Don_1]

To take this a little further, I now think that far from being frightened away, as the nursery rhyme would have us believe, when the spider sat down beside Miss Muffet, she trod on it.

What on earth does this have to do with science? [][]

Erm........ Give up, ask me another.

[blakestyger]

What on Earth does this have to do with anything? [] []

And it's Ridinghood, not Riddinghood.

[the grouve]

Social Science, Nursery rhymes promote culture among other things.

Why does little pig have to win?

Because if he loses he's not just a Little pig, no he's a useless little pig and that's just crap.

Little pig has his pride, it's fast and red with an associate on one side, and again little pig would never kill, for that would make him a murderer and a little pig, so he gets others to do it for him. He has his pride.

Three little pigs

"Little pig, little pig, let me in"

The moral of this story: If you live like a little pig, you'd better build yourself a bunker to live in, because one day the whirlwind you create, will come for you! 

[Chemistry4me]

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[Chemistry4me]

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What the F%#@ are you F*&%%$% talking about? %#$^%@&^$@$@%&^$#^%$&^%#$^%

[Don_1]

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What the F%#@ are you F*&%%$% talking about? %#$^%@&^$@$@%&^$#^%$&^%#$^%

It's called 'claptrap' or 'cobblers' also sometimes refered to as 'inane twitterings'.

[DoctorBeaver]

Aleister Crowley, the occultist, was a great one for jokes. He wrote an entire magical treatise about nursery rhymes and their occult significances just to see how gullible people were. To this day there are some that take his interpretations as fact.

For example:-

        Every nursery rime contains profound magical secrets which are open
to every one who has made a study of the correspondences of the Holy
Qabalah. To puzzle out an imaginary meaning for this "nonsense" sets one
thinking of the Mysteries; one enters into deep contemplation of holy
things and God Himself leads the soul to a real illumination. Hence also
the necessity of Incarnation; the soul must descend into all falsity in
order to attain All-Truth.
        For instance:

                Old Mother Hubbard
                Went to her cupboard
                To get her poor dog a bone;
                When she got there,
                The cupboard was bare,
                And so the poor dog had none.

        Who is this ancient and venerable mother of whom it is spoken?
Verily she is no other than Binah, as is evident in the use of the holy
letter H with which her name begins.
        Nor is she the sterile Mother Ama -- but the fertile Aima; for
within he she bears Vau, the son, for the second letter of her name, and R,
the penultimate, is the Sun, Tiphareth, the Son.
        The other three letters of her name, B, A, and D, are the three
paths which join the supernals.
        To what cupboard did she go? Even to the most secret caverns of the
Universe. And who is this dog? Is it not the name of God spelt
Qabalistically backwards? And what is this bone? The bone is the Wand, the
holy Lingam!
        The complete interpretation of the rune is now open. This rime is
the legend of the murder of Osiris by Typhon.
        The limbs of Osiris were scattered in the Nile.
        Isis sought them in every corner of the Universe, and she found all
except his sacred lingam, which was not found until quite recently (vide
Fuller, "The Star in the West").

If you're interested you can read more here

[the grouve]

"And they looked from pig to man, from man to pig but couldn't see a difference"

You see why? because some men decided that living like a pig was not just great that it was normal.

Some of us may live as animal, others rise above, others lower themselves even further than animals. We all can choose. with regards to Crowley- I can think of no bigger idiot.

Some may say that humans are just animals, the reality is that some people are animals and live like animals, but others do more with their lives and rise above. That I think is the sadist thing about some, is that they choose to be stupid, and wallow.

[Chemistry4me]

You again! []

[Chemistry4me]

How does 'Animal Farm' fit into this?
Anyway, I believe that it was the pigs who wanted to live like humans instead of the other way round.

[the grouve]

How does 'Animal Farm' fit into this?
Anyway, I believe that it was the pigs who wanted to live like humans instead of the other way round.

No the pigs wanted everything the man had, and then the man wanted everything the pigs had. The pigs are the communist rulers, the men are the capitalist rulers. Orwell is activley saying "really there is no difference between these to, they are as bad as each other" You can agree or not but that is what he means.
I used it for a different reason. Those that would lower humanity to the level of pig against those that see humanity as above that.

[Chemistry4me]

What? []
Mr. Jones ran the farm! Why would he want what the animals had? The animals threw the humans off the farm. At the end Napoleon and the other pigs had become identical to the human farmers, just as Stalin and the Russian communists eventually became indistinguishable from the aristocrats whom they had replaced and the Western capitalists whom they had denounced.

[Chemistry4me]

Are you sure that you have read the novel?

[the grouve]

What? []
Mr. Jones ran the farm! Why would he want what the animals had? The animals threw the humans off the farm. At the end Napoleon and the other pigs had become identical to the human farmers, just as Stalin and the Russian communists eventually became indistinguishable from the aristocrats whom they had replaced and the Western capitalists whom they had denounced.

Go read the book again, the men at the end are different men, men from the west. not the men that had been replaced. For they wondered if they could do the same in their countries. Remember...
Think now, why would those in charge talk to those they got rid of? They talked to their competition- it was a nogociation that last dinner.

[Chemistry4me]

Oh you mean Mr. Pilkington?
He said that the farmers shared a problem with the pigs: “If you have your lower animals to contend with, we have our lower classes!”
That one?

[Chemistry4me]

This quip, delivered by Mr. Pilkington to Napoleon and his cabinet during their well-catered retreat inside the farmhouse in Chapter X, makes fully explicit the process of ideological corruption that has been taking place throughout the novella. Old Major's notion of the absolute division of interests between animals and humans here gives way to a division between two classes, even cutting across species lines. Pigs and farmers share a need to keep down their laboring classes. Mr. Pilkington's witticism lays bare the ugly but common equation of laborers with animals.
 
Moreover, the quote serves to emphasize directly the significance of Animal Farm as a social commentary, cementing the conceptual link between the downtrodden animals and the working classes of the world. Orwell explodes his “fairy story,” as he termed it, by bringing it into the realm of human consequence, thereby making its terrors all the more frightening to his readership.

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/animalfarm/answers/quoteexp_5.html

[Damo the Optics Monkey]

I thought Old MacDonald had the farm....

e-1, e-1, e-1-o... <-- is this some ancient code calling the Mother Ship...

[DoctorBeaver]

I thought Old MacDonald had the farm....

e-1, e-1, e-1-o... <-- is this some ancient code calling the Mother Ship...

And on that farm there were no cows,
BSE-I-O

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